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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5961 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:31 pm

man after recon this 4 hours ago... look at the center. dropped all the way to 24 n and 88 west.. probably near there or maybe even slightly west of there.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5962 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:34 pm

pcolaman wrote:Hey Aric, what do you think about the westward shift in the models ? Do you think that the cone will shift further to the west ?


if for some reason the trough is not deep enough the track is up in the air. I dont think given the current thinking the models will shift much more west unless the trough itself does not dig far enough south to fully pick it up. just have to wait and see how long this stalled/ continued drifting "westward" last.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5963 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:34 pm

Thanks, might stay up a bit if they're leaving now.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5964 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:38 pm

ASCAT from about an hour and a half ago. You nailed it Aric.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5965 Postby pcolaman » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:39 pm

Looks like it backing up to the west to get a good run at becoming a hurricane. Kinda like Opal did out of the bay Campeche , or Ivan running around Cuba. Just my thoughts..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5966 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:41 pm

Recon quite likely to fine a TS now.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5967 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:43 pm

TS? The ASCAT shows this is a 25 kt TD at most
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5968 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:44 pm

the hwrf does not have it move passed 87 west for over 24 hours.. thats new..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5969 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:44 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Recon quite likely to fine a TS now.


why have they not left? Or have they?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5970 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:44 pm

Haven't seen where they have taken off yet. :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5971 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:46 pm

Alyono wrote:TS? The ASCAT shows this is a 25 kt TD at most

I know you're a pro met but I have to disagree with you here...ASCAT doesn't pick up everything that recon can.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5972 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:48 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
Alyono wrote:TS? The ASCAT shows this is a 25 kt TD at most

I know you're a pro met but I have to disagree with you here...ASCAT doesn't pick up everything that recon can.


especially within heavy convection. given the low level structure and re organization .. pressure is probably 1000mb or upper 990's /
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5973 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:49 pm

mid level shear is still affecting this. It's likely not yet aligned. That's why the winds have DECREASED today
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5974 Postby mobilebay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:49 pm

SeGaBob wrote:
Alyono wrote:TS? The ASCAT shows this is a 25 kt TD at most

I know you're a pro met but I have to disagree with you here...ASCAT doesn't pick up everything that recon can.

I will be absolutely shocked if recon doesn't find a tropical storm
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5975 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:50 pm

Still have not seen where they have taken off and this is one mission I hope they don't cancel. TD 9 is looking good.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5976 Postby cdavis6287 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:52 pm

OK, just to be clear. Can someone who has allot more knowledge in storms than me answer. I'm confused on the uncertain track. I know allot of people on here are saying the track should be west cause models show that. But then I'm hearing some saying it will trend more east again. As far as what's going on with this system and I know its a crazy one, why are people saying the NHC thinks it may go further east again? What are the factors on the projected path? Thanks!
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5977 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:53 pm

Colin earlier this year no doubt was less impressive than this currently looks....confused by no upgrade but the NHC are the experts and they get to make the calls.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5978 Postby Johnny77 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:55 pm

Yes, for an official TD it's looking very healthy tonight. Likely an official TS by tomorrow morning. This thing just keeps tracking further west than the models have predicted. But, with a stronger storm now it should start to move poleward. Amazing that 24-48 hours ago people were really worried about a Tampa strike.

I have relatives just north of Hilton Head Island along the South Carolina coast, which is currently in the cone. What type of winds could they get there based on latest guidance? Would you be moving your boat out of the water?

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5979 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:56 pm

Alyono wrote:mid level shear is still affecting this. It's likely not yet aligned. That's why the winds have DECREASED today

'yeah not fully aligned but close enough for sustained convection. the center very likely has migrated farther wsw than even the ascat or microwave.. giving it very good shot tonight.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Recon Discussion

#5980 Postby mobilebay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:56 pm

Im beginning to wonder about this mission. Shouldn't they've departed by now?
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