ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[tolakram]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

So that was a real picture, good grief!

[CryHavoc]

In areas such as this that do experience flooding, why don't they have rescue grids set up and citizen resources coordinating with public officials, in the oft chance such flooding again occurs so private citizens with boats, helis, etc. can check these areas methodically and no one gets left behind?

The lack of coordination in this day and age is mind boggling to me. We can organize all kinds of things so efficiently so well. With each natural disaster there keeps being talk of doing it better next time... when will we learn?? Especially here in the Gulf Coast. I read on ABC 13 a minute ago a notice begging people to bring their flat bottom boats to rescue those in need. That is not the way to do this. Random people - even if they are experienced with their boat - with no rescue training equals potential disaster. Here is an example of a request -
http://abcnews.go.com/US/rescuers-scramble-save-hurricane-harvey-survivors-houston-southeast/story?id=49450092

Just my opinion - not being political - this is bigger one party or another. This is just awful.

It is extraordinarily easy to criticize without an understanding of the gargantuan undertaking of mobilizing resources and making sure that they are properly allocated. This is historic and unprecedented. It is not easy to coordinate people, especially when emergency services are usually among the *last* to be funded.

[Hurricane Andrew]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

So that was a real picture, good grief!

One of the most horrifying pictures I have ever seen.

[Tireman4]

Haven't heard from southerngale, wxman57, alyono, Hurakan, and others from the area in awhile. Hope they check in when they can.

I will text Hurrakan Sandy

[Frank P]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

here is the web page of this news source... http://www.galvnews.com/ nowhere on the official web page can I find this photo... I say FAKE

[artist]

In areas such as this that do experience flooding, why don't they have rescue grids set up and citizen resources coordinating with public officials, in the oft chance such flooding again occurs so private citizens with boats, helis, etc. can check these areas methodically and no one gets left behind?

The lack of coordination in this day and age is mind boggling to me. We can organize all kinds of things so efficiently so well. With each natural disaster there keeps being talk of doing it better next time... when will we learn?? Especially here in the Gulf Coast. I read on ABC 13 a minute ago a notice begging people to bring their flat bottom boats to rescue those in need. That is not the way to do this. Random people - even if they are experienced with their boat - with no rescue training equals potential disaster. Here is an example of a request -
http://abcnews.go.com/US/rescuers-scramble-save-hurricane-harvey-survivors-houston-southeast/story?id=49450092

Just my opinion - not being political - this is bigger one party or another. This is just awful.

It is extraordinarily easy to criticize without an understanding of the gargantuan undertaking of mobilizing resources and making sure that they are properly allocated. This is historic and unprecedented. It is not easy to coordinate people, especially when emergency services are usually among the *last* to be funded.

I was not meaning to be critical, just thought it should be a pertinent discussion, perhaps after this is over. So far as resources, there are many, as now, that would do it for nothing. But again, we can discuss later.

[jlauderdal]

 https://twitter.com/TXMilitary/status/901848118047768576



Texas Military Dept @TXMilitary
#BREAKINGNEWS: #Texas #NationalGaurd ground teams are heading to #Houston , TX . #Harvey #TMDHarvey @USNationalGuard
12:45 PM - Aug 27, 2017

why werent they there already, this situation was expected

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[tropicwatch]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

here is the web page of this news source... http://www.galvnews.com/ nowhere on the official web page can I find this photo... I say FAKE

It is there they put up a new picture. Look to the right you will see the headline.

[Frank P]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

here is the web page of this news source... http://www.galvnews.com/ nowhere on the official web page can I find this photo... I say FAKE

I take that back I did find the article from the home page... but still can't believe its true.. I sure hope not...

[Hurricane Andrew]

 https://twitter.com/TXMilitary/status/901848118047768576



Texas Military Dept @TXMilitary
#BREAKINGNEWS: #Texas #NationalGaurd ground teams are heading to #Houston , TX . #Harvey #TMDHarvey @USNationalGuard
12:45 PM - Aug 27, 2017

why werent they there already, this situation was expected

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Had Harvey jogged unexpectedly in the 24hrs or so leading up to landfall, Houston could have been hit by much stronger winds, perhaps even hurricane winds. My guess is that the Texas NG wanted to keep their resources ready, but out of the direct impact zone, so as to keep them from being compromised. Just a guess though, that isn't my area of expertise.

[GCANE]

CAPE back on the increase in the GOM

[WeatherLovingDoc]

 https://twitter.com/TXMilitary/status/901848118047768576



Texas Military Dept @TXMilitary
#BREAKINGNEWS: #Texas #NationalGaurd ground teams are heading to #Houston , TX . #Harvey #TMDHarvey @USNationalGuard
12:45 PM - Aug 27, 2017

why werent they there already, this situation was expected

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Had Harvey jogged unexpectedly in the 24hrs or so leading up to landfall, Houston could have been hit by much stronger winds, perhaps even hurricane winds. My guess is that the Texas NG wanted to keep their resources ready, but out of the direct impact zone, so as to keep them from being compromised. Just a guess though, that isn't my area of expertise.

Wonder how they plan to get in...I10 is flooded isn't it? Maybe airlifts initially when wind appropriate?

[W8NC4TX]

Haven't heard from southerngale, wxman57, alyono, Hurakan, and others from the area in awhile. Hope they check in when they can.

I will text Hurrakan Sandy

I texted Southerngale just now. She's my aunt and I haven't heard that they're in danger yet so I would think all is well. I'm sure she'll check in soon though.

[artist]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

here is the web page of this news source... http://www.galvnews.com/ nowhere on the official web page can I find this photo... I say FAKE

Frank, when I scroll down their front page it is there with a link-
15 rescued from Dickinson Nursing home.

[meriland29]

CAPE back on the increase in the GOM

What is that supposed to mean?

[artist]

 https://twitter.com/TXMilitary/status/901848118047768576



Texas Military Dept @TXMilitary
#BREAKINGNEWS: #Texas #NationalGaurd ground teams are heading to #Houston , TX . #Harvey #TMDHarvey @USNationalGuard
12:45 PM - Aug 27, 2017

why werent they there already, this situation was expected

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They are sending additional resources. Many had been deployed to Rockport, etc. for search and rescue.

[Frank P]

Dickinson emergency manager coordinator confirms rescue of the nursing home residents.

http://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_e1ffff8e-435d-5c78-ab46-57d6bc7dc6a5.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

here is the web page of this news source... http://www.galvnews.com/ nowhere on the official web page can I find this photo... I say FAKE

Frank, when I scroll down their front page it is there with a link-
15 rescued from Dickinson Nursing home.

artist, I found it earlier.. I for the love of me can't believe, but in this impossible situation I guess anything is possible.. I can't find anything that says this publication is known for giving out fake info either...

[msbee]

I am watching with horror and hoping people in Texas will be safe.
@NWS tweeted that this event is "unprecedented & all impacts are unknown & beyond anything experienced."

[LearnedHat]

12:45 PM - Aug 27, 2017[/quote]why werent they there already, this situation was expected

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Had Harvey jogged unexpectedly in the 24hrs or so leading up to landfall, Houston could have been hit by much stronger winds, perhaps even hurricane winds. My guess is that the Texas NG wanted to keep their resources ready, but out of the direct impact zone, so as to keep them from being compromised. Just a guess though, that isn't my area of expertise.[/quote]

Assets could have also been needed 200 miles away in CC or San Antonio or Austin. The biggest thing is for people to take actions to take care of themselves (evacuate or otherwise prepare), then help each other, and finally get helped by official authorities. That is the most effective way even when it isn't the most efficient (which it often is as well). It starts with taking warnings seriously but in this day of hyperbole, hard to get people to take notice.

Despite the the titles of things, there really aren't comprehensive plans for very infrequent events. Resource allocation dynamics do not allow for it.

[artist]

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