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#61 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:07 pm

Things are happening fast. I have a surface feature at 21N-75.5W. Direction looks to be west and into Cuba if it doesn't pull-up...
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#62 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:09 pm

gkrangers wrote:062
URNT11 KNHC 231755
97779 17514 30223 74408 02400 21024 23236 /0011
42025
RMK AF300 01GGA INVEST OB 08




They need to find a circulation first. A dominant one.

The winds could just be thunderstorm related.



They have, looking at the obs of wind direction as they approached and their positions a circulation is evident, it seems to be broad but there nonetheless. You maybe meaning that they need to pinpoint the exact center, this they will do as they fly back and forth sampling pressures and wind directions.

The wind obs definitely show a circulation.
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#63 Postby clfenwi » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:11 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 231808
AF300 01GGA INVEST HDOB 23 KNHC
1758. 2236N 07418W 00243 5014 188 027 232 230 028 00245 0000000000
1759 2238N 07418W 00244 5014 187 028 234 230 029 00244 0000000000
1759. 2240N 07419W 00246 5014 183 028 228 228 029 00247 0000000000
1800 2241N 07419W 00243 5015 196 027 220 220 028 00244 0000000000
1800. 2243N 07420W 00242 5015 203 030 230 220 031 00242 0000000000
1801 2245N 07420W 00242 5015 201 028 208 208 028 00242 0000000000
1801. 2246N 07420W 00248 5014 202 026 226 226 028 00248 0000000000
1802 2248N 07420W 00243 5018 208 024 226 226 024 00241 0000000000
1802. 2250N 07420W 00243 5018 201 024 228 226 026 00240 0000000000
1803 2252N 07420W 00245 5016 196 026 228 224 027 00244 0000000000
1803. 2253N 07420W 00244 5015 195 025 230 230 027 00244 0000000000
1804 2255N 07420W 00244 5015 193 026 230 226 027 00244 0000000000
1804. 2257N 07420W 00245 5016 190 026 230 230 026 00244 0000000000
1805 2259N 07419W 00242 5016 186 026 230 228 026 00241 0000000000
1805. 2300N 07419W 00245 5016 185 025 228 228 026 00244 0000000000
1806 2302N 07419W 00245 5016 181 024 228 228 025 00244 0000000000
1806. 2304N 07419W 00243 5017 184 026 230 230 026 00241 0000000000
1807 2306N 07419W 00246 5017 186 026 230 230 026 00244 0000000000
1807. 2308N 07419W 00242 5018 182 026 232 232 026 00240 0000000000
1808 2309N 07419W 00245 5017 181 023 230 230 025 00243 0000000000
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#64 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:12 pm

clfenwi wrote:Concur with gkrangers... calling this a TS is premature... remember yesterday that recon found spot surface winds of 60 knots in Jose...


I only suggested a TS. Just to make that clear. :wink:
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#65 Postby dwg71 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:12 pm

Sanibel wrote:Things are happening fast. I have a surface feature at 21N-75.5W. Direction looks to be west and into Cuba if it doesn't pull-up...


That's on the south side of the convection, right??
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#66 Postby Swimdude » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:13 pm

Winds at 38 mph...

Well... Unfortunately, that's 1 mph short. :lol: That would be mildly irritating, wouldn't it?
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#67 Postby clfenwi » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:15 pm

Time: 1809Z
Position: 23.2 North // 74.3 West
Flight level: 240 meters
FL winds: 27 knots // 180
Temp/Dewpoint (C): 23/23
Weather: Rain
SLP: 1010 millibars
Surface winds: 25 knots // 180

URNT11 KNHC 231812
97779 18094 30232 74308 02400 18027 23238 /0010
41825
RMK AF300 01GGA INVEST OB 09
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#68 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:16 pm

Swimdude wrote:Winds at 38 mph...

Well... Unfortunately, that's 1 mph short. :lol: That would be mildly irritating, wouldn't it?


Those are flight level winds, not surface winds. Surface winds would be less, as max winds in a tropical system are typically near the 1500 ft flight level and decrease downward from there.
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#69 Postby Swimdude » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:21 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Swimdude wrote:Winds at 38 mph...

Well... Unfortunately, that's 1 mph short. :lol: That would be mildly irritating, wouldn't it?


Those are flight level winds, not surface winds. Surface winds would be less by about 20% on average.


Oh goodness, duh. :lol: Can't believe that slipped my mind, thanks for correcting me!
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#70 Postby artist » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:21 pm

sorry - wrong storm
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#71 Postby yoda » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:22 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Swimdude wrote:Winds at 38 mph...

Well... Unfortunately, that's 1 mph short. :lol: That would be mildly irritating, wouldn't it?


Those are flight level winds, not surface winds. Surface winds would be less by about 20% on average.


Yup... and 38 * .8 = 30.4 mph
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#72 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:22 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Swimdude wrote:Winds at 38 mph...

Well... Unfortunately, that's 1 mph short. :lol: That would be mildly irritating, wouldn't it?


Those are flight level winds, not surface winds. Surface winds would be less by about 20% on average.



You are right and I forgot that, so we should have a TD anyway by what we see on Visible and what Recon is reporting.
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#73 Postby Buck » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:22 pm

Wow... well, I guess we officially have a new system to track.
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#74 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:23 pm

This is for Jose.
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#75 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:24 pm

I think we have a few people who need to read vortex messages more closely. That is one from Jose, check the lat/lon
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#76 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:24 pm

That's Jose's Vortex.
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#77 Postby artist » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:25 pm

yep - just deleted - only looked at date - can you delete from your post so there won't be any confusion?
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#78 Postby clfenwi » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:26 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 231808
AF300 01GGA INVEST HDOB 23 KNHC
1758. 2236N 07418W 00243 5014 188 027 232 230 028 00245 0000000000
1759 2238N 07418W 00244 5014 187 028 234 230 029 00244 0000000000
1759. 2240N 07419W 00246 5014 183 028 228 228 029 00247 0000000000
1800 2241N 07419W 00243 5015 196 027 220 220 028 00244 0000000000
1800. 2243N 07420W 00242 5015 203 030 230 220 031 00242 0000000000
1801 2245N 07420W 00242 5015 201 028 208 208 028 00242 0000000000
1801. 2246N 07420W 00248 5014 202 026 226 226 028 00248 0000000000
1802 2248N 07420W 00243 5018 208 024 226 226 024 00241 0000000000
1802. 2250N 07420W 00243 5018 201 024 228 226 026 00240 0000000000
1803 2252N 07420W 00245 5016 196 026 228 224 027 00244 0000000000
1803. 2253N 07420W 00244 5015 195 025 230 230 027 00244 0000000000
1804 2255N 07420W 00244 5015 193 026 230 226 027 00244 0000000000
1804. 2257N 07420W 00245 5016 190 026 230 230 026 00244 0000000000
1805 2259N 07419W 00242 5016 186 026 230 228 026 00241 0000000000
1805. 2300N 07419W 00245 5016 185 025 228 228 026 00244 0000000000
1806 2302N 07419W 00245 5016 181 024 228 228 025 00244 0000000000
1806. 2304N 07419W 00243 5017 184 026 230 230 026 00241 0000000000
1807 2306N 07419W 00246 5017 186 026 230 230 026 00244 0000000000
1807. 2308N 07419W 00242 5018 182 026 232 232 026 00240 0000000000
1808 2309N 07419W 00245 5017 181 023 230 230 025 00243 0000000000
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#79 Postby StormsAhead » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:26 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 231818
AF300 01GGA INVEST HDOB 24 KNHC
1808. 2311N 07419W 00242 5018 178 024 232 232 025 00240 0000000000
1809 2313N 07419W 00244 5018 177 026 232 228 027 00242 0000000000
1809. 2315N 07419W 00243 5017 176 025 230 230 026 00242 0000000000
1810 2316N 07419W 00245 5017 168 024 230 230 025 00243 0000000000
1810. 2318N 07419W 00244 5016 164 024 228 228 025 00243 0000000000
1811 2320N 07419W 00245 5015 154 023 222 222 023 00245 0000000000
1811. 2322N 07419W 00244 5015 139 023 216 216 024 00244 0000000000
1812 2323N 07419W 00243 5016 129 023 212 212 024 00242 0000000000
1812. 2325N 07420W 00245 5015 129 025 212 212 026 00245 0000000000
1813 2327N 07420W 00245 5014 123 027 212 212 028 00247 0000000000
1813. 2328N 07420W 00244 5013 123 030 216 216 031 00246 0000000000
1814 2330N 07420W 00241 5014 115 032 208 208 032 00243 0000000000
1814. 2332N 07420W 00246 5014 118 031 214 214 032 00247 0000000000
1815 2333N 07421W 00243 5015 125 032 208 208 033 00244 0000000000
1815. 2335N 07421W 00245 5016 126 034 224 224 035 00245 0000000000
1816 2336N 07423W 00243 5018 128 037 222 222 038 00240 0000000000
1816. 2337N 07425W 00243 5019 127 038 224 224 039 00239 0000000000
1817 2338N 07426W 00246 5019 123 037 220 220 038 00242 0000000000
1817. 2339N 07428W 00243 5019 120 036 220 220 039 00240 0000000000
1818 2340N 07430W 00243 5018 119 037 220 220 038 00240 0000000000
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#80 Postby clfenwi » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:28 pm

Time: 1817Z
Position: 23.7 North // 74.5 West
Flight level: 240 meters
FL winds: 37 knots // 120
Temp/Dewpoint (C): 22/22
Weather: rain
SLP: 1010 millibars
Surface winds: 35 knots // 110

URNT11 KNHC 231821
97779 18174 30237 74508 02400 12037 22228 /0010
41135
RMK AF300 01GGA INVEST OB 11
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