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#6641 Postby Weatherboy1 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:47 pm

It appears to me that in the last few frames, the cloud pattern on Fay's western side is flattening out a bit. Maybe I'm seeing things, but if so, that could be the precursor to the anticipated turn more to the NW and N.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6642 Postby artist » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:47 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
Steve H. wrote:Well, if you think you've got this thing pegged to any degree, look at the 12Z Euro. Takes Fay off the east coast of Florida, then brings it back into central Florida heading west toward the panhandle. shhheeeesh.


The Euro has been all over the place on this one so discard it altogether for now.

actually it has been fairly consistent. Being on the east coast I have been keeping my eye on it.
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#6643 Postby txwatcher91 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:47 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wow look at sombrero Key of Marathon in the FL Keys....winds are on the increase....

Wind Direction (WDIR): E ( 100 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 22 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 24 kts


Uh oh, RI has begun, lol. Seriously though, this could really strengthen once in the GOM and N of Cuba.
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#6644 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:47 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:URNT12 KNHC 171941
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL062008
A. 17/19:11:40Z
B. 20 deg 54 min N
079 deg 55 min W
C. 850 mb 1458 m
D. 26 kt
E. 196 deg 064 nm
F. 309 deg 015 kt
G. 209 deg 015 nm
H. 1003 mb
I. 16 C/ 1521 m
J. 18 C/ 1459 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/ 8
O. 0.02 / NA nm
P. AF302 1306A FAY OB 12
MAX FL WIND 43 KT E QUAD 18:07:30 Z
PRELIMINARY


Yep 20.9N as expected, now we've got a good fix on the center the next recon pass will be far more interesting as we will get a good indication of the track in the short term.
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#6645 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:48 pm

marciacubed wrote:
Steve wrote:>>The GDFL what do you think of this track?

Other than it hits SW FL instead of SE FL, that's been +/- my track since last Monday. So I think, if it verifies, I should be commissioned an honorary Administrator so I can ban lots of bad posters. :D

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I hope I am not included in that group!!!


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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6646 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:48 pm

53rd WRS flew Cuban airspace during Charley. Once upon a time, IIRC, Castro let the civilian WP-3D NOAA planes fly into Cuban airpspace, but not the USAFR. IIRC, Hugo Chavez has denied overflight permission a few years back.


But the info benefits Cuba as well, and without the solid backing of the old USSR (although I could see the old KGB hand Putin restoring the relationship) maybe whichever Castro actually runs things now is a touch less confrontational than he/his brother used to be.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6647 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:48 pm

WV loop looks strange , weird cloud motion on the side of the ULL late in the loop. prob just me, but is this ULL behaving as forecast, seems to stop westward motion towar the end?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-wv.html


also cuban radar shows a center that is appearing to organize or back build

http://www.insmet.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB ... AXw01a.gif
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#6648 Postby KWT » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:48 pm

Upper conditions wil lbe improving pretty quickly when this enter the gulf but its about 24hrs too soon for it to relaly bomb IMO unless it goes a little further west like the HWRF suggests.
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#6649 Postby Shockwave » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:49 pm

chris_fit wrote:From Sarasota County Government...

....At this time, a mandatory evacuation order is in place for all residents living in a mobile home. A voluntary evacuation is urged for all residents living in a low-lying area or on barrier islands. These evacuations may be upgraded Monday depending on storm conditions. Shelters will open after 5 p.m. Monday. Stay tuned to local media for the latest storm advisories. Currently, Sarasota County Schools will be open Monday, Aug. 18 along with all county and municipal offices. Continue to monitor local media and NOAA weather radio throughout today and tonight for the latest information.

http://www.scgov.net/stormcenter/stormcenterhome.asp


I would think with a mandatory evacuation (for some), schools would be closed? I guess they might have shelters opened up for the evacuation poeple who have no where to go.
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#6650 Postby chris_fit » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:50 pm

Shockwave wrote:
chris_fit wrote:From Sarasota County Government...

....At this time, a mandatory evacuation order is in place for all residents living in a mobile home. A voluntary evacuation is urged for all residents living in a low-lying area or on barrier islands. These evacuations may be upgraded Monday depending on storm conditions. Shelters will open after 5 p.m. Monday. Stay tuned to local media for the latest storm advisories. Currently, Sarasota County Schools will be open Monday, Aug. 18 along with all county and municipal offices. Continue to monitor local media and NOAA weather radio throughout today and tonight for the latest information.

http://www.scgov.net/stormcenter/stormcenterhome.asp


I would think with a mandatory evacuation (for some), schools would be closed? I guess they might have shelters opened up for the evacuation poeple who have no where to go.


Negative... schools are still open, see that link.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6651 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:51 pm

It is the waiting game......well at least it is Mid Sun afternoon edt....
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6652 Postby Sanibel » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:51 pm

Could be setting up for a slightly shorter pass over Cuba with night time d-max to give it legs to survive the trip.

- Tearing away to prepare house now.
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#6653 Postby Steve » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:52 pm

>>Yep 20.9N as expected

It's 20.54 so maybe not quite as expected. :?:
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#6654 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:52 pm

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#6655 Postby RL3AO » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 pm

Steve wrote:>>Yep 20.9N as expected

It's 20.54 so maybe not quite as expected


Thats 20 54', not 20.54, if you didn't know.
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#6656 Postby Vortex » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 pm

I have no doubts based on radar and imagery that fay is now turning north...
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#6657 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 pm

is it me or does it "look" like its starting to jump NNW already now --- probably just an illusion with the mid-level clouds covering the low-level center I guess..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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#6658 Postby cpdaman » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:53 pm

Steve wrote:>>Yep 20.9N as expected

It's 20.54 so maybe not quite as expected. :?:
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20.54 is 20.9
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#6659 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:54 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image


The NW track has commenced.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay South of Cuba

#6660 Postby Jason_B » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:54 pm

I am also noticing a jog northward.
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