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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6821 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:40 pm

ekal wrote:
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cpdaman wrote:nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes



latest trend for the last half hours is interesting as the that dry slot is filling in and the core or small eye is much more defined ... with a small ring of convection beginning to take shape


That "dry slot" may actually be filled with heavy precipitation that is too far from the radar to be detected. In fact, I think those bands you see "developing" now were always present --just out of range.


its possible to a point.. but it has not moved that much on my loop so that does not hold. its barely moving over the past hour or so .. but the convection is filling ..
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6822 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:41 pm

ekal wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
cpdaman wrote:nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes



latest trend for the last half hours is interesting as the that dry slot is filling in and the core or small eye is much more defined ... with a small ring of convection beginning to take shape


That "dry slot" may actually be filled with heavy precipitation that is too far from the radar to be detected. In fact, I think those bands you see "developing" now were always present --just out of range.

Actually, microwave data from a couple of hours ago does confirm that there is some dry air entraining into the inner core.
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#6823 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:41 pm

Remember too, it might not of been out of range. There is such a LARGE precip shield on the western half of this Hurricane, that the return echoes from the eastern half were being eaten up by the rain on the way back to the Doppler. It is not unusual to see this on LR radar images.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6824 Postby carversteve » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:41 pm

Is it just me,or is dolly moving nnw..it just looks like at the present motion it would go north of brownsville..mabe by a bit..Not an official observation..jimo..any comments apprecated!!
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6825 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:43 pm

From it's radar presentation it appears the the Eastern side is filling in pretty good. With the "bursting" cloud tops as we get the last couple of visible shots this evening. Looks like she's intensifying.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6826 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:43 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:Looks like it's intensifying in a hurry.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-rgb.html

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Looks can be deceiving. ;)
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#6827 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:43 pm

What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?


Why would he say that? He may know something we dont or who knows.
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#6828 Postby Chacor » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:44 pm

Tireman4 wrote:
What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?



Why would he say that? He may know something we dont or who knows.


I would put it down to overhype.
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#6829 Postby KWT » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:45 pm

Is that a hint of the eye again SouthFloridawx near 25N, 95.2W?
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6830 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:45 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
ekal wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote: "nice pic Aric

also us poor folk's radar is also seeing that dry spot on the east side of the center filling in with developing bands ..... crikey!"

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes


latest trend for the last half hours is interesting as the that dry slot is filling in and the core or small eye is much more defined ... with a small ring of convection beginning to take shape


That "dry slot" may actually be filled with heavy precipitation that is too far from the radar to be detected. In fact, I think those bands you see "developing" now were always present --just out of range.

Actually, microwave data from a couple of hours ago does confirm that there is some dry air entraining into the inner core.


well that was not really being debated, we are talking about possible changes within the hour
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#6831 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:50 pm

KWT wrote:Is that a hint of the eye again SouthFloridawx near 25N, 95.2W?


Ya know... it looks like it.

http://tinyurl.com/6g9roo
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6832 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:51 pm

Chacor wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:Looks like it's intensifying in a hurry.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-rgb.html

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Looks can be deceiving. ;)

Why do you think that?
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6833 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:52 pm

Cryo, I have found that I can no longer wear shoes while watching TWC, In fact I can no longer watch any longer than 10 minutes at a time when land falling hurricanes occur. I have too much invested in HD. I guess I come back because I do remember when they actually had weathermen who actually cared about the weather. I guess I'm, a cockeyed optimist I keep hoping one day they will return to the weather.
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#6834 Postby Steve » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:55 pm

Saw some cool bands just outside of Hanhville and Boutte on the way home. Dolly is a long way off, but you can see that even all the way up here there is an influence. Luckily I only caught a little of this band on the 310.

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#6835 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:56 pm

Tireman4 wrote:What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?


Why would he say that? He may know something we dont or who knows.


I saw the same thing. What could possible cause this to happen?
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6836 Postby jasons2k » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:To demonstrate how reading a radar image can take a keen eye, here's a 00Z radar with the NHC's 00Z position marked by crosshairs (24.9N/95.7W). Note that the eye isn't that giant opening, it's the small area on the southwest side of the large opening. That's what you need to track.


I stand corrected. Yes, I see the smaller circulation to the SW has now wrapped and that is the eye. The opening to the SE threw me off - thank you.

Here I have it:

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#6837 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:00 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:What in the world did I just see on Abrams and Bettis? Dr. Lyons was talking about the very worst case scenario of a Cat 4/5 hitting Houston and the oil fields and then Stephanie Abrams asked him if that could happen tomorrow. He stuttered a moment and then said "It's not out of the realm of the possible." Was he considering that this storm could pull MUCH further north? Or was I just totally missing something on this TWC piece? Anyone else see it?


Why would he say that? He may know something we dont or who knows.


I saw the same thing. What could possible cause this to happen?


Ummm.... NO
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6838 Postby cpdaman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:03 pm

so is new "dry spot" on the south side of the center been there all along, or cloud tops to the east blocking it, ummm.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6839 Postby artist » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:04 pm

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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#6840 Postby ekal » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:07 pm

cpdaman wrote:so is new "dry spot" on the south side of the center been there all along, or cloud tops to the east blocking it, ummm.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... o&loop=yes


IR and visible show some of the strongest convection with this system to be south of the center. That is why I find it hard to believe that there is an actual dry slot there.
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