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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#6841 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:28 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
iorange55 wrote:WOO! RECORD. History is fun, huh?


I expected some areas around the metro (typical suburbs) to have such high amounts but no means did I expect it to be so for the record books at DFW airport. It's so tough to get high accumulation measurements there. I bet it will be above 8 inches by the 8pm update.


And to think our close and dear friend Mr. GFS nailed this storm 7 days ago


Here is that graphic that was posted a few pages back.

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#6842 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:32 pm

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txagwxman wrote:OK --- just taking a poll --- How many of you people believe in Global Warming now, after all of these snow storms?



I don't think a few snow storms out of the ordinary debunk global warming. Its about long term trends.

I'm not a complete believer in global warming, but I'm not a skeptic either and I'd tend to think its likely that the planet is warming.

I am not a complete skeptic either...CO2 is increasing with time and does add some warming. But questions remain how much....doubling CO2 from here adds about 1-2 watts/m^2 of warming.


Personally I think humanity is very egotistic (no offense to any of us lol). We think we control\cause everything. There's more at work than us, this doesn't excuse having an ignorant lifestyle though. Even though I don't think man-made global warming is as big an issue as people make it out to be, for our own good (health, economics and such) we should take care of the things around us whether it be saving energy (lower bills) or buying hybrids (lower pollution and less gas bills) etc.

Edit: Haslet is the winner so far with 10.1 officially
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#6843 Postby WantSnow » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:33 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
WantSnow wrote:
txagwxman wrote:OK --- just taking a poll --- How many of you people believe in Global Warming now, after all of these snow storms?



I don't think a few snow storms out of the ordinary debunk global warming. Its about long term trends.

I'm not a complete believer in global warming, but I'm not a skeptic either and I'd tend to think its likely that the planet is warming.


I don't doubt the earth warms and cools, but I don't think we can cause it. If so who warmed the earth to end the ice age when no humans were around?



And that is a good point. But if we know c02 warms the earth and we are putting it in the atmosphere at 'record' levels who's to say were no at least contributing to the warming of the planet?
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#6844 Postby WantSnow » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:36 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Personally I think humanity is very egotistic (no offense to any of us lol). We think we control\cause everything. There's more at work than us, this doesn't excuse having an ignorant lifestyle though. Even though I don't think man-made global warming is as big an issue as people make it out to be, for our own good (health, economics and such) we should take care of the things around us whether it be saving energy (lower bills) or buying hybrids (lower pollution and less gas bills) etc.

Edit: Haslet is the winner so far with 10.1 officially


I think that's the best point really. Whether or not we believe we are warming the planet we can't deny the hazardous effects of all of the pollution we put out in the air and into the ecosystem. That alone if not anything else should cause us to be more responsible.


I love snow so much! :jump:
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#6845 Postby DentonGal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:40 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
WantSnow wrote:
txagwxman wrote:OK --- just taking a poll --- How many of you people believe in Global Warming now, after all of these snow storms?



I don't think a few snow storms out of the ordinary debunk global warming. Its about long term trends.

I'm not a complete believer in global warming, but I'm not a skeptic either and I'd tend to think its likely that the planet is warming.


I don't doubt the earth warms and cools, but I don't think we can cause it. If so who warmed the earth to end the ice age when no humans were around?


We ended a solar maximum a few years ago, which is what contributed to "Global Warming". It's a natural cycle the sun goes through every 11 years or so - some last longer, some are shorter. We've been in the 3rd deepest solar minimum in history recently - which is one reason this winter is so cold, and I believe the next several winters will be cold, just like in the 70's. The only 2 periods longer than the current solar minimum cycle we've been experiencing is the Maunder Minimum (aka The Little Ice Age) and the Dalton Minimum. JB talks about the current solar minimum from time to time.
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#6846 Postby gboudx » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:48 pm

FYI, Global Warming/Climate Change is being discussed in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=107082

I'm sure Air Force Met would enjoy the discussions.
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#6847 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:50 pm

I just remembered that tomorrow night the Winter Olympics start. How cool will that be having snow on the ground watching the opening ceremonies. I hear they are having an issue with lack of snow up there which from what I understand it typical in an El Nino year.

:flag: :flag: USA USA USA :flag: :flag:
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#6848 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:51 pm

gboudx wrote:FYI, Global Warming/Climate Change is being discussed in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=107082

I'm sure Air Force Met would enjoy the discussions.


Thanks gboudx!
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#6849 Postby txtiff » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:02 pm

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My 9 year old having a blast!!!
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#6850 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:02 pm

TWC says 8.7 officially out of DFW! Still snowing. Can we break 9?!

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
808 PM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...SNOW EVENT ONE FOR THE RECORD BOOKS...

AT 8 PM...DFW AIRPORT HAD RECORDED 8.7 INCHES OF SNOW TODAY. THIS
BREAKS THE PREVIOUS DAILY RECORD FOR FEBRUARY 11 OF 1.4 INCHES SET
IN 1988. THIS ALSO BREAKS THE PREVIOUS 24-HOUR RECORD FOR
FEBRUARY...7.5 INCHES ON FEBRUARY 17, 1978 AND FEBRUARY 25, 1924.

THIS IS THE GREATEST CALENDAR-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL ON RECORD FOR
DALLAS/FORT WORTH. THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 7.8 INCHES ON JANUARY 15,
1964 AND JANUARY 14, 1917.
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#6851 Postby txtiff » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:05 pm

My 9 year old having a blast!!![/quote]
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#6852 Postby gboudx » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:06 pm

LOL! Love the pic of sticking his tongue to the post.
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#6853 Postby txtiff » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:08 pm

gboudx wrote:LOL! Love the pic of sticking his tongue to the post.


Thanks!!! He had so much fun and of course Mom didn't mind it all!!
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#6854 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:13 pm

Wow..8.7 inches?! I am more than impressed! That is 3-4 times the average yearly snowfall total for Dallas all in one storm.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#6855 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:18 pm

So have we heard any specifics on road conditions in the morning? What might be the impacts in the DFW Airport/Coppell area? I saw low temps of 30 tonight in that area, not sure how icy things may become at that temp. I know there's alot of slush in that area, but once it hasn't been snowing for a couple of hours, will the roads still get real icy? That seems like an easy question, but I'm basically asking if they'll be passable at all, not just slightly icy.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#6856 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:24 pm

DFW Stormwatcher wrote:So have we heard any specifics on road conditions in the morning? What might be the impacts in the DFW Airport/Coppell area? I saw low temps of 30 tonight in that area, not sure how icy things may become at that temp. I know there's alot of slush in that area, but once it hasn't been snowing for a couple of hours, will the roads still get real icy? That seems like an easy question, but I'm basically asking if they'll be passable at all, not just slightly icy.


I would expect the worst on the side of precaution, Txdot said if you don't have to get on the road tomorrow morning, avoid doing so.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#6857 Postby DentonGal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:24 pm

DFW Stormwatcher wrote:So have we heard any specifics on road conditions in the morning? What might be the impacts in the DFW Airport/Coppell area? I saw low temps of 30 tonight in that area, not sure how icy things may become at that temp. I know there's alot of slush in that area, but once it hasn't been snowing for a couple of hours, will the roads still get real icy? That seems like an easy question, but I'm basically asking if they'll be passable at all, not just slightly icy.

My son left an hour ago for work going from Denton to Fort Worth via I-35W south - he's barely 1/2 way there, and everything is icy and very dangerous. He said it was "scary" - he's 24 and not the type that gets scared, but it's already turning to ice out there.
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#6858 Postby txagwxman » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:24 pm

Ntxw wrote:TWC says 8.7 officially out of DFW! Still snowing. Can we break 9?!

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
808 PM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...SNOW EVENT ONE FOR THE RECORD BOOKS...

AT 8 PM...DFW AIRPORT HAD RECORDED 8.7 INCHES OF SNOW TODAY. THIS
BREAKS THE PREVIOUS DAILY RECORD FOR FEBRUARY 11 OF 1.4 INCHES SET
IN 1988. THIS ALSO BREAKS THE PREVIOUS 24-HOUR RECORD FOR
FEBRUARY...7.5 INCHES ON FEBRUARY 17, 1978 AND FEBRUARY 25, 1924.

THIS IS THE GREATEST CALENDAR-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL ON RECORD FOR
DALLAS/FORT WORTH. THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 7.8 INCHES ON JANUARY 15,
1964 AND JANUARY 14, 1917.


Sorry Dallas---Houston still has u beat:
20" all-time record here :lol:
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#6859 Postby katheria » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:25 pm

DFW Stormwatcher wrote:So have we heard any specifics on road conditions in the morning? What might be the impacts in the DFW Airport/Coppell area? I saw low temps of 30 tonight in that area, not sure how icy things may become at that temp. I know there's alot of slush in that area, but once it hasn't been snowing for a couple of hours, will the roads still get real icy? That seems like an easy question, but I'm basically asking if they'll be passable at all, not just slightly icy.



my opinion..stay home if you can...if not leave after 10am

bridges are gonna be bad in morning....
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#6860 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:27 pm

txagwxman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:TWC says 8.7 officially out of DFW! Still snowing. Can we break 9?!

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
808 PM CST THU FEB 11 2010

...SNOW EVENT ONE FOR THE RECORD BOOKS...

AT 8 PM...DFW AIRPORT HAD RECORDED 8.7 INCHES OF SNOW TODAY. THIS
BREAKS THE PREVIOUS DAILY RECORD FOR FEBRUARY 11 OF 1.4 INCHES SET
IN 1988. THIS ALSO BREAKS THE PREVIOUS 24-HOUR RECORD FOR
FEBRUARY...7.5 INCHES ON FEBRUARY 17, 1978 AND FEBRUARY 25, 1924.

THIS IS THE GREATEST CALENDAR-DAY SNOWFALL TOTAL ON RECORD FOR
DALLAS/FORT WORTH. THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS 7.8 INCHES ON JANUARY 15,
1964 AND JANUARY 14, 1917.


Sorry Dallas---Houston still has u beat:
20" all-time record here :lol:


Pfft, =P I'm more than happy with 9-10 as long as I get to experience it. But that is an amazing record for that far south (20")! Though I suppose being proximity to limitless gulf moisture would help :cheesy:
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