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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#701 Postby Hammy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:38 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:00z NAM just because ... cant be any worse than the global models at this point this year lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 72800&fh=0


May as well throw it on the pile :lol:

It seems the models showing weakening and the ones showing strengthening are all digging in and trending harder towards their respective solutions at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#702 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:05 pm

00z GFS coming in just a smidge West of the 18z run through 108 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#703 Postby chaser1 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:05 pm

Hammy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:00z NAM just because ... cant be any worse than the global models at this point this year lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 72800&fh=0


May as well throw it on the pile :lol:

OMG, I'm hugging the NAM?! Aric, say it ain't so LOL?!

It seems the models showing weakening and the ones showing strengthening are all digging in and trending harder towards their respective solutions at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#704 Postby Cpv17 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:08 pm

Ok now the 0z ICON run was weird! A piece of energy breaks off 92L and starts forming in the west Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#705 Postby sma10 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:13 pm

Ukmet very similar to GFS, though a bit more SW. Strange that both models keep the system very weak throughout, but doesn't dissipate it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#706 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:15 pm

GFS brings it to a crawl in the NW Bahamas between hour 126 and 150. Looks like the steering falls apart. Where have we seen that before?


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#707 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:17 pm

Sitting right over Grand Bahama Island at hour 156. Not a location I want to see a vigorous vort on a 6 day map.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#708 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:19 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:GFS brings it to a crawl in the NW Bahamas between hour 126 and 150. Looks like the steering falls apart. Where have we seen that before?


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Just looks hostile on the GFS.. Getting blasted by dry air. Look at RH
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#709 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:19 pm

Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad
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#710 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:20 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#711 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:22 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.

yeah, but we are still too far out to see how the storm and its structure will manage any dry air challenge.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#712 Postby sma10 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:25 pm

It's just amazing to me, I'm not saying the models are wrong ... but when is there ever a dry air problem over the Bahamas in August?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#713 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:27 pm

There’s some slight vorticity at 180hrs on the 0zGFS while at hr 186 at 18z had dissipated the system, I hope it’s not slowly correcting to a less dry atmosphere somewhat like what happened with the models with Dorian last year and the models end up somewhat correct intensity wise so trends are not really heading for dissipation but have changed my mind to a more bearish forecast
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#714 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:28 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.



I don't get it though. If dry air is such a huge problem this season, why is there forecast to be so many storms?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#715 Postby NotSparta » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 pm

Although GFS is a little stronger, condition are not favorable in the Bahamas. Can see the shear on RH, which also helps advect the dry air into the circulation, pretty much killing it

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#716 Postby NotSparta » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:31 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.



I don't get it though. If dry air is such a huge problem this season, why is there forecast to be so many storms?


Because dry air is not unusual for July
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#717 Postby SoupBone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:31 pm

sma10 wrote:It's just amazing to me, I'm not saying the models are wrong ... but when is there ever a dry air problem over the Bahamas in August?


It's still late July, and SAL is still dominant during this time of the year. SAL impacting this system would be of no surprise at all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#718 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:31 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.



I don't get it though. If dry air is such a huge problem this season, why is there forecast to be so many storms?

I don’t know? Honestly there seems to a lot more dry air around than normal this season so far. Kind of reminds me of 2013 in a way.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#719 Postby SoupBone » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:33 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like very slowly the models are playing catch-up and this will probably be stronger in or near the Bahamas than modeled as once again it looks like shear isn’t that bad

But dry air is a HUGE problem.



I don't get it though. If dry air is such a huge problem this season, why is there forecast to be so many storms?


Man you've posted here since 2005, SAL is always a factor this time of the year, subsiding right before peak season begins in mid-August. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#720 Postby Hd444 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:34 pm

Cmc stronger.
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