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170 kt? That would be like a 60 mile wide EF5 tornado...think Greensburg at make that swath 60 miles wide (with a large swath of lesser but still severe to extreme damage)...
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
HeeBGBz wrote:Do we have any model runs coming out soon? I need some fresh speculation.
The shift southward on some of this models this afternoon seems to have quieted the troops somewhat.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
The Chad weather guy on CNN is still reporting 135mph...you would think CNN would be top of this and get the update. Higher winds = Higher Hype and Higher Ratings 

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The 00z NAM coming out..
18 hrs.. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_018l.gif
500mb.. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_018l.gif
18 hrs.. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_018l.gif
500mb.. http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_018l.gif
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Cape Verde wrote:Here's trusting that models are always wrong. I'm directly in the path of those of those 170 kt winds on that model run, and I don't think my house is built THAT sturdy.
well, it actually does not bring it in to texas that strong.. here it is below:

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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
miamicanes177 wrote:The Chad weather guy on CNN is still reporting 135mph...you would think CNN would be top of this and get the update. Higher winds = Higher Hype and Higher Ratings
So true

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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
Question: The faster it goes the more west? OR ..the faster it goes the more north?
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
jacindc wrote:HeeBGBz wrote:Do we have any model runs coming out soon? I need some fresh speculation.
The shift southward on some of this models this afternoon seems to have quieted the troops somewhat.
lol, the boards are alot less busy
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Here are a few more hurricane-related prayers I found back in 2005. Hope it's ok to post these, but I find it's helpful for those of us far away who want to DO something to have some words to use in guiding our prayers. It's easy to let the overwhelming nature of this storm paralyze us to the point of not knowing how to pray or act.
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Lord, God of the Universe, creator and sustainer of all life,
Grant us the serenity to respond to disaster in bold faith, seeking not certainty, but rather the assurance of your abiding presence. Grant us hope when we spiral into despair and fill our broken hearts with the love with which you surround us. As we rebuild, guide each hammer and nail with a ring of hope; bless each bandage and conversation with the balm of healing, and strengthen each resolve with the blessed assurance that all manner of thing shall be well, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen.
God of heaven and earth, God who carries our lives and the lives of our whole community in Your hands, be with us in the peril of this day/night. Help us to release our anxieties and fears into those same caring hands, knowing in faith that Your will for us is life and everlasting good. Send Your holy angels to watch over us and guard us. May they spread their holy wings to give us shelter against the storm. For you alone, O God, are all good, all life, all love, and that love is for us; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
O Lord, King of the Universe, master of the winds and the rain, be with those this day who are facing the hurricane’s wrath. Succor those who are in fright, be with those who are trying to save lives, open the hands of those whose generosity is needed to help. O Lord, Master of the wind and the rain, be with those, and if possible, let this storm weaken. Remember we are your children. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
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Lord, God of the Universe, creator and sustainer of all life,
Grant us the serenity to respond to disaster in bold faith, seeking not certainty, but rather the assurance of your abiding presence. Grant us hope when we spiral into despair and fill our broken hearts with the love with which you surround us. As we rebuild, guide each hammer and nail with a ring of hope; bless each bandage and conversation with the balm of healing, and strengthen each resolve with the blessed assurance that all manner of thing shall be well, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen.
God of heaven and earth, God who carries our lives and the lives of our whole community in Your hands, be with us in the peril of this day/night. Help us to release our anxieties and fears into those same caring hands, knowing in faith that Your will for us is life and everlasting good. Send Your holy angels to watch over us and guard us. May they spread their holy wings to give us shelter against the storm. For you alone, O God, are all good, all life, all love, and that love is for us; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
O Lord, King of the Universe, master of the winds and the rain, be with those this day who are facing the hurricane’s wrath. Succor those who are in fright, be with those who are trying to save lives, open the hands of those whose generosity is needed to help. O Lord, Master of the wind and the rain, be with those, and if possible, let this storm weaken. Remember we are your children. In the name of Jesus, Amen.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
miamicanes177 wrote:Question: The faster it goes the more west? OR ..the faster it goes the more north?
the slower it moves the bigger chance it would move more north.. dean is slowing a bit now... still very uncertain
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Thanks for all the opinions... 170 knots = 195.5 mph... I believe that would be the 2nd fastest wind speed ever recorded in a hurricane on the planet. Hopefully, this is outrageous. I really hope the GFDL has just gone insane. It brings Dean into Texas at a measley (HAH!) 166 mph storm. Goodness.
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URNT15 KNHC 180201
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
HouTXmetro wrote:jacindc wrote:HeeBGBz wrote:Do we have any model runs coming out soon? I need some fresh speculation.
The shift southward on some of this models this afternoon seems to have quieted the troops somewhat.
lol, the boards are alot less busy
Went from lots of FL to lots of Tx now its just the real fans..
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
GFDL peak strength 170 knots? Landfall 145 knots?
I hope to God it's wrong on intensity. Someone would be in for a world of hurt.
I do like the southward trend on the models. I don't want anyone to get hit really, I would like this thing to dissipate, but since it won't, let it come in where there are fewer people.

I hope to God it's wrong on intensity. Someone would be in for a world of hurt.

I do like the southward trend on the models. I don't want anyone to get hit really, I would like this thing to dissipate, but since it won't, let it come in where there are fewer people.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
Media screwup alert: The Met for Fox News Channel just called Jamaica the "Island of Guatemala" 

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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
vacanechaser wrote:Cape Verde wrote:Here's trusting that models are always wrong. I'm directly in the path of those of those 170 kt winds on that model run, and I don't think my house is built THAT sturdy.
well, it actually does not bring it in to texas that strong.. here it is below:
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I hope you meant not that strong as in the 170knts the previous poster said about his house not being sturdy. Because 145knots I think would be pretty strong. CAT 5 into the Houston area.
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00Z 18 guidance tracks have shifted southward again. Two camps appear to be developing..one deep in the Bay of Campeche and the other aimed at the coast just S of TX...GFDL is very far north. Even the steady right GFS ensembles are starting to trend southward on the 00Z runs. Too early to determine if this is a real trend...need it to hold through Saturday and then we shall know more.
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Re: Major Hurricane DEAN: (5PM page 179) Discussions, Analysis
jaxfladude wrote:Media screwup alert: The Met for Fox News Channels just called Jamaica the "Island of Guatemala"
Oh boy... get ready for a lot more of this in the days to come...the media hype is going to get out of control. Especially since it's close to the K "anniversary".
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
vacanechaser wrote:miamicanes177 wrote:Question: The faster it goes the more west? OR ..the faster it goes the more north?
the slower it moves the bigger chance it would move more north.. dean is slowing a bit now... still very uncertain
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I thought conventional Wisdom was the slower Dean moves the more time the Ridge has to build in. In order for Dean to move North he must move fast and gain latitude to catch the ULL weakness.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN: Global Models
Just wait, they in all likelyhood will shift back to the north, then south, then north over again and everyone will be buzzing again. In my opinion this southern track is far from being etched in stone. Also to the person who asked about the faster Dean moves west the better chance of moving north, I think that is correct as the ull will be in the gulf and before moving out and the high has a chance to build back in Dean will already be approaching and getting a northward jog. Please correct me if i am wrong....
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