ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7321 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:08 am

Normandy wrote:Goodness, crazy crazy dynamics going on inside the eyewall of Dolly.....There must be some VICIOUS gusts inside those cells.



The last storm to hit near this area was hurricane Emily of 2005. That was also a cat3 and was never retired?
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7322 Postby paintplaye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:09 am

Haha wind gust of 43mph at Galveston. Whoa that is pretty impressive. Khou reported on that.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7323 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:10 am

Normandy wrote:Goodness, crazy crazy dynamics going on inside the eyewall of Dolly.....There must be some VICIOUS gusts inside those cells.


Yep radar is showing some really powerful returns in the eyewall still, as you say there must be some really hellish gusts in that eyewall, hope it loses that soon!

paintplaye, woah so accordin gto thatwe are ghetting close to hurricane force gusts already!
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7324 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:11 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
Normandy wrote:Goodness, crazy crazy dynamics going on inside the eyewall of Dolly.....There must be some VICIOUS gusts inside those cells.



The last storm to hit near this area was hurricane Emily of 2005. That was also a cat3 and was never retired?


Yep, Bret hit also as a cat-3 in 1999 and wasn't retired either, though that was a bit further tothe north.

americanrebel, 82kts is really impressive and its a surface report as well, I think they should up the winds to 80kts based on that report.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7325 Postby paintplaye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:14 am

KWT wrote:
Normandy wrote:Goodness, crazy crazy dynamics going on inside the eyewall of Dolly.....There must be some VICIOUS gusts inside those cells.


Yep radar is showing some really powerful returns in the eyewall still, as you say there must be some really hellish gusts in that eyewall, hope it loses that soon!

paintplaye, woah so accordin gto thatwe are ghetting close to hurricane force gusts already!


Yea and that was an official report too. I'll try to update y'all when i get them.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7326 Postby ekal » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:16 am

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Latest METAR Observation(s) for: KBRO, KPIL
KBRO
The most recent METAR observation from KBRO in our system was generated at the source at:

2008/07/23 11:07 UTC

The observation is:

KBRO 231107Z 34023G42KT 2SM +RA BR SCT009 BKN019 OVC029 24/23 A2952 RMK AO2 PK WND 330[b]42[/b]/1059 P0015
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KPIL
The most recent METAR observation from KPIL in our system was generated at the source at:

2008/07/23 10:53 UTC

The observation is:

KPIL 231053Z AUTO 36026G39KT 4SM RA SCT010 BKN017 OVC049 26/ A2955 RMK AO2 PK WND 010[b]39[/b]/1044 RAB0957 SLP007 P0024 T0261 $


First ob is Brownsville, second is Port Isabel. Highest sustained winds at these locations so far are 42 knots and 39 knots, respectively. So TS force winds have made it onshore.
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#7327 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:16 am

Impressive stuff paintplaye. I do wisthe sun would come up so we can get Vis.imagery of Dolly whilst its still looking amazing with that eye.

Powerful band now heading into Texas further upthe coast as well, I wonder how far north the TS force gusts will go in that band, probably quite some way I'd guess given the very heavy returns from radar.

Cool ekal, yep we have TS winds offically now onshore, now the enxt thing we are wiating to come onshore is the hurricane force gusts.
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#7328 Postby paintplaye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:18 am

KWT wrote:Impressive stuff paintplaye. I do wisthe sun would come up so we can get Vis.imagery of Dolly whilst its still looking amazing with that eye.

Powerful band now heading into Texas further upthe coast as well, I wonder how far north the TS force gusts will go in that band, probably quite some way I'd guess given the very heavy returns from radar.

Cool ekal, yep we have TS winds offically now onshore, now the enxt thing we are wiating to come onshore is the hurricane force gusts.



Ya i know. I am kinda afraid though of the training effect.
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#7329 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:21 am

Yep not really surprising paintplaye, there is some really impressive bands coming into Texas now, that band probably marks where the TS force winds are at least in gusts. Winds only going to increase for S.Texas.

Flooding is obviously going to be a major issue with Dolly as well given how slow its moving and how convectivly active its been so far today.
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#7330 Postby paintplaye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:26 am

KWT wrote:Yep not really surprising paintplaye, there is some really impressive bands coming into Texas now, that band probably marks where the TS force winds are at least in gusts. Winds only going to increase for S.Texas.

Flooding is obviously going to be a major issue with Dolly as well given how slow its moving and how convectivly active its been so far today.


ya that 68 was like 20min ago so not long

yes i agree
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#7331 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:27 am

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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7332 Postby americanrebel » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:28 am

So we should see the models shift it further north, but how much further north we do not know yet.
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#7333 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:29 am

Yep DESTRUCTION5 the presentation of this hurricane right now on radar is really impressive, intense eyewall and a good looking eye, relaly nice looking hurricane...good job this doesn't have even more time time and space then it has already to be honest!

I suspect landfall may be a tiny bit further north the nthe NHC estmates but close enough so that it won't make a huge diffference really.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7334 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:31 am

americanrebel wrote:So we should see the models shift it further north, but how much further north we do not know yet.




Models are useless now...It over its coming in right on the border...
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#7335 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:32 am

KWT wrote:Yep DESTRUCTION5 the presentation of this hurricane right now on radar is really impressive, intense eyewall and a good looking eye, relaly nice looking hurricane...good job this doesn't have even more time time and space then it has already to be honest!

I suspect landfall may be a tiny bit further north the nthe NHC estmates but close enough so that it won't make a huge diffference really.


Too impressive to be a Cat 1...IMO...
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7336 Postby O Town » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:33 am

Really wasn't expecting to see her look so intense this morning.


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#7337 Postby HarlequinBoy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:34 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Simply stunning..

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid= ... 1&loop=yes


That's what I've been thinking. I must say, I'm surprised the winds aren't higher... but the data I guess doesn't support it.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7338 Postby paintplaye » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:34 am

I agree this thing is way to impressive for a cat 1.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7339 Postby Air Force Met » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:35 am

americanrebel wrote:So we should see the models shift it further north, but how much further north we do not know yet.


Its 20 miles off the coast, you don't need models...get a good radar loop and a ruler.

But...speaking of models...the HWRF has been consistent in a track a little further up the coast than the rest of the models.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7340 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:35 am

The pressure in H.Dolly down to 972 sounds to me like it's dropped enought to be a cat.2 maybe close to a cat.3 storm? A weak Cat.3??????
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