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#741 Postby shaggy » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:01 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:I personally believe the current track will be shifted slightly northward and eastward in the Gulf of Mexico due to the evolution of heights (ridging) to the north of Chris and troughing synoptics evolving in the mid-central United States now.

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Right now, there is a slightly amplifying trough in the mid-central U.S., which may be progged to erode the mid-level to low-level ridging over the east-central U.S. (Ohio Valley) and southeast United States. Given the synoptics, it may be rather difficult for Chris to get even as far west as southeast to south-central Texas. I see an east-central to central (not far western) Gulf and southern/southeast Florida or middle Keys impact as more likely.


OR it could hit hispaniola(lets hope not) and be destroyed just like debby back in 2000?...
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#742 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:01 pm

This confirms my earlier thoughts that higher flight-level winds would be found further in closer to the deepest convection with the 64KT confirmed at flight levels.
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#743 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:01 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:I personally believe the current track will be shifted slightly northward and eastward in the Gulf of Mexico due to the evolution of heights (ridging) to the north of Chris and troughing synoptics evolving in the mid-central United States now.

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Right now, there is a slightly amplifying trough in the mid-central U.S., which may be progged to erode the mid-level to low-level ridging over the east-central U.S. (Ohio Valley) and southeast United States. Given the synoptics, it may be rather difficult for Chris to get even as far west as southeast to south-central Texas. I see an east-central to central (not far western) Gulf and southern/southeast Florida or middle Keys impact as more likely.
this map is for today, this will not be what is going on 5-7 days from now.
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#744 Postby StormsAhead » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:01 pm

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#745 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:02 pm

ncdowneast wrote:OR it could hit hispaniola(lets hope not) and be destroyed just like debby back in 2000?...


The synoptics playing out don't support that heavily, in my opinion.
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#746 Postby max » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:02 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
max wrote:Please tell me we aren't watching a rapid strengthing like Hurricane Wilma or quicker. I hope not. I don't think it will but just saying.

It better not.


Its practicly impossible to get strengthening faster than wilma's record for most rapid strengthening in the world...but steady-quick strengthening is certainly not out of the question


Thank god its impossible for strengthing to happen quicker than Hurricane Wilma but I hope it doesn't match it or close.
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#747 Postby WindRunner » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:02 pm

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#748 Postby max » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:02 pm

TexasF6 wrote:Why didn't the NHC wait for RECON? That is odd, unless they don't wish to alarm people....if he is booming we should know! He looks OK on sat pics...


Agreed!
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#749 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:04 pm

considering there was just a 63 knot FL wind, I would assume that this will be upgraded further at 8pm.
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#750 Postby MiamiensisWx » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:04 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:this map is for today, this will not be what is going on 5-7 days from now.


By making observations on synoptics and factors on current maps, it can be possible to support an idea on how the synoptics may play out and how it may affect the track/intensity of Chris. Nothing is certain, but that doesn't mean my thoughts and current maps should be discounted.

By the way, please stop trying so hard to support a far western Gulf landfall.
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#751 Postby fci » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:04 pm

ncdowneast wrote:
fci wrote:
ncdowneast wrote:cant wait till next year when we can finally get past the "rita" and "katrina" references......This storm is also tracking like a dozen other storms and it may never even get close to the track or intensity of rita!


I think it will take a LONG time before Rita and, especially; Katrina references subside.


i dont want to come across as downplaying their destruction but to compare apples to oranges is getting a bit tiresome.If it was september then the ridge setup would be different and we would be getting "this is just like floyd" post!..

Chris is going to make a name for himself and thats what people need to focus on not what he reminds them of!


I don't want to stray too far from Chris but it is totally normal to reference prior storms.
They are our points of reference.
Like the "so in so looks like" or "this game reminds me of" etc....

It is real hard to discuss a storm or even a situation without comparing it to something else one has experienced!

Then, you end up using the current situation as a refrence for future situations.

It's just human nature!

fci steps off of soapbox......
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#752 Postby kevin » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:06 pm

It may be human nature but personification of storms is kind of silly and leads to false conclusions.
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#753 Postby drezee » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:06 pm

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WTNT63 KNHC 012106
TCUAT3
TROPICAL STORM CHRIS TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032006
505 PM AST TUE AUG 01 2006

BASED ON A RECENT REPORT FROM THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT...THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN CHRIS HAVE INCREASED TO
NEAR 60 MPH. A SPECIAL ADVISORY WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY...
PRIMARILY TO MODIFY THE INITIAL AND FORECAST INTENSITY. NO CHANGES
IN WATCHES OR WARNINGS ARE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/KNABB
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#754 Postby drezee » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:07 pm

086
WTNT63 KNHC 012106
TCUAT3
TROPICAL STORM CHRIS TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032006
505 PM AST TUE AUG 01 2006

BASED ON A RECENT REPORT FROM THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT...THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN CHRIS HAVE INCREASED TO
NEAR 60 MPH. A SPECIAL ADVISORY WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY...
PRIMARILY TO MODIFY THE INITIAL AND FORECAST INTENSITY. NO CHANGES
IN WATCHES OR WARNINGS ARE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/KNABB
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#755 Postby max » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:08 pm

Wow that was quick! :eek:
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#756 Postby Canelaw99 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:08 pm

See - if the NHC had listened to us they wouldn't have had to issue this special advisory :wink: We've been telling them the 45mph was too low
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#757 Postby El Nino » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:09 pm

So, more than 50 knots ! :eek:

Talking about unfavourable environment hmmmm ?
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#758 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:09 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:this map is for today, this will not be what is going on 5-7 days from now.


By making observations on synoptics and factors on current maps, it can be possible to support an idea on how the synoptics may play out and how it may affect the track/intensity of Chris. Nothing is certain, but that doesn't mean my thoughts and current maps should be discounted.

By the way, please stop trying so hard to support a far western Gulf landfall.
stop trying to support a far western Gulf landfall? what? I have been worried about that possibility, not hoping or wishing or trying to support it. If anything, it seems like you are trying to support a FL landfall.

your exact quote:
I see an east-central to central (not far western) Gulf and southern/southeast Florida or middle Keys impact as more likely.
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#759 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:09 pm

086
WTNT63 KNHC 012106
TCUAT3
TROPICAL STORM CHRIS TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032006
505 PM AST TUE AUG 01 2006

BASED ON A RECENT REPORT FROM THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT...THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS IN CHRIS HAVE INCREASED TO
NEAR 60 MPH. A SPECIAL ADVISORY WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY...
PRIMARILY TO MODIFY THE INITIAL AND FORECAST INTENSITY. NO CHANGES
IN WATCHES OR WARNINGS ARE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/KNABB
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#760 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:10 pm

Wow Chris is now almost at the borderline of becoming a Hurricane.
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