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An interesting thing I just noted after looking at my vortex plots . . . the two plots we have so far indicate a slightly north of NW motion, say about 325 degrees, not the NHC's 295 WNW on the 5:30. I'm not sure what this is a sign of, and it may just be a wobble. A third vortex in the next half-hour or so should make it easier to draw some conclusions from this.
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An interesting thing I just noted after looking at my vortex plots . . . the two plots we have so far indicate a slightly north of NW motion, say about 325 degrees, not the NHC's 295 WNW on the 5:30. I'm not sure what this is a sign of, and it may just be a wobble. A third vortex in the next half-hour or so should make it easier to draw some conclusions from this.
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max wrote:I have one word for you Wilma.
People thought Hurricane Wilma wasn't going to be much but look what happen. You have to always be ready for anything.
OK, I'm with Kevin on this one.
Any comparison to Wilma is simly way off.
Different region.
Different time of year
Different everything!!!
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SXXX50 KNHC 012159
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wxwonder12 wrote:Question?? If the NHC was posting the forecast path to the right of the models earlier today, what has made them shift more to the South at this point. Does this look like it may be the trend now and perhaps miss S Florida all together?? Thanks in advance.
A deeper stronger system would keep on a more westerly track due to its organization throughout the atmosphere as it runs into the Atlantic ridge. A weaker system would basically go up under it.
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It may just be a brief wobble, but eventually (even if it went due north), it would feel the ridge and be pushed back west. Any northward motion is actually a negative, because it would keep the storm further away from the mountains, thus giving it a better chance to strengthen. I really hope this northward jog stops soon.WindRunner wrote:An interesting thing I just noted after looking at my vortex plots . . . the two plots we have so far indicate a slightly north of NW motion, say about 325 degrees, not the NHC's 295 WNW on the 5:30. I'm not sure what this is a sign of, and it may just be a wobble. A third vortex in the next half-hour or so should make it easier to draw some conclusions from this.
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URNT14 KNHC 012127
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INBOUND
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OBS 06 AT 20:35:40Z
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OUTBOUND
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02183 20605 20015 22221 15037
03184 30603 30016 32222 14036
04186 40601 40017 42320 13035
05188 50599 50017 52321 12032
06190 60598 60018 62321 12028
MF180 M0608 MF064
OBS 01 AT 20:46:00Z
OBS 06 AT 21:09:00Z
OBS 06 SFC WND 11020
AF303 0103A CHRIS OB 15
SUPPLEMENTARY VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
INBOUND
LAT LON jHHH TTDD ddfff
01167 10618 10016 12424 27016
02168 20615 20015 22422 27016
03170 30613 30015 32422 27022
04172 40611 40014 42322 25033
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MF173 M0610 MF043
OBS 01 AT 20:11:30Z
OBS 06 AT 20:35:40Z
OBS 01 SFC WND 23010
OUTBOUND
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04186 40601 40017 42320 13035
05188 50599 50017 52321 12032
06190 60598 60018 62321 12028
MF180 M0608 MF064
OBS 01 AT 20:46:00Z
OBS 06 AT 21:09:00Z
OBS 06 SFC WND 11020
AF303 0103A CHRIS OB 15
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actually looking at the NHC advisory it looks like the center may be right under that upper red line.curtadams wrote:Trugunzn wrote:is the center in between those to red lines????
No. The center is near the top of the upper red line. The hot air rising from the center is being blown SW and then SE as it rises. Thus the highest clouds (the reds) are in an arc extending away from the center.
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SXXX50 KNHC 012209
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