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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#881 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:14 am

00z GFS drops the arctic mother-load with a severe - EPO!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#882 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:15 am

Stratton23 wrote:00z GFS drops the arctic mother-load with a severe - EPO!

Yep, it literally fired the arctic cannon, and it's reloading for another one in that run
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#883 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:22 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#884 Postby Sambucol2024 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:24 am

Stratton23 wrote:00z GFS drops the arctic mother-load with a severe - EPO!

How cold for SETX?

Side note: ERCOT said at the beginning of December that it is probable we will have another Feb 2021 or similar event this winter in Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#885 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:24 am



Good lawd, sweet baby Jesus :double:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#886 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:26 am

Sambucol224 on this run it has has in the 30’s for se texas
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#887 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:26 am

Thats what i call an arctic outbreak
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#888 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 12:42 am

Stratton23 wrote:Thats what i call an arctic outbreak


Guess we’ll see what the 00z GEFS says.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#889 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:05 am

GFS goes from 60 to single digits here :double:

Still fantasy land though
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#890 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:09 am

Big time cross polar flow setting up on the 00z GEFS, Cold air is positioned to come straight down into the central plains and texas, not as cold as op run, but very similar setup
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#891 Postby Gotwood » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:22 am

Euro always seems to be a major outlier these days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#892 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:28 am

Gotwood wrote:Euro always seems to be a major outlier these days.

Didn't that happen in 2021 and it never ended well for the Euro?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#893 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:34 am

Iceresistance yup, the Euro was absolutely terrible with seeing the cold air coming, failed miserably
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#894 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:38 am

EPS still looks like a stupid +PNA to me :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#895 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:39 am

Brent yeah the EPS looks like doo doo, GEFS 00z says hold
my beer to the EPS
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#896 Postby Throckmorton » Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:21 am

Some GEFS mean forecasted temperatures in Oklahoma, northern Texas, and Austin for Jan. 9th (12/26, 00Z run). The 90th and 10th forecast percentiles are within parentheses.

42 (67)–25 (06)...Amarillo
54 (72)–38 (27)...Austin Camp Mabry
46 (69)–34 (22)...Dallas
38 (58)–26 (13)...Oklahoma City
36 (53)–26 (11)...Tulsa
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#897 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:20 am

Really wild discrepancies showing up end of week 2 b/w Euro and GFS Ensembles :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#898 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:33 am

I hate to say it but the EPS usually does better than the GEFS from what I remember

If this pattern gets ruined by the +PNA I have no words anymore
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#899 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:58 am

This could be a bumpy ride for SE Texas. Be weather aware today...

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Houston/Galveston TX
415 AM CST Thu Dec 26 2024

...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM, AVIATION, MARINE...

.SHORT TERM...
(Today through Friday Night)
Issued at 415 AM CST Thu Dec 26 2024

In advance of a mid-upper trough, a surface low pressure area will
develop in northwest Texas and track ene toward the ArkLaTex
today. A strengthening 35-50kt low level jet will transport deeper
Gulf moisture into the region with PW`s climbing to 1.4-1.6"
(abnormally high for this time of year). Expect scattered showers
early this morning to transition into thunderstorms and increase
in areal coverage late this morning and afternoon with daytime
heating, the approach of the LFQ of an upper jet on the backside
of the mid-upper trough, and a surface trof/front moving toward
the area from the west.

There is a threat of severe weather across all of southeast Texas
today. That being said, latest guidance seems to point toward
areas along and east of a line from roughly Madisonville-Freeport
possibly having the overall most favorable set-up.

Not everyone will see severe storms, but those that do...some
significant impacts are not out of the question. All severe wx modes
are in play:

- Tornadoes: environment will become favorable for discrete rotating
storms especially late morning to late afternoon.
- Hail: cooling mid levels of the atmosphere will enhance updraft
strength and hail growth zone. Hail larger than quarter size
will be likely in the stronger cells.
- Wind damage: strong winds aloft will be prone to mix to the
surface in/near storm downdrafts.
- Heavy rain/flash flooding/rivers: deep moisture is forecast to
be in place as will a somewhat favorable set-up for some storm
training. Several inches of rain could fall in a short time
period leading to some localized issues. Most of the area saw
1-4" of rainfall yesterday which should limit how much the
ground can absorb. Should any storms train over locations that
saw the most significant rains, runoff is more prone to lead to
some street flooding. Though widespread river problems are not
anticipated, we`ll need to keep an eye on rises on some
watersheds.
- Hazardous marine conditions: similar to the
above...hail, wind gusts >34kt, and waterspouts will be a
possibility. Risk probably higher east of Sargent.

Prevalent discrete storms prior to around 5pm should transition to a
more linear mode as the surface front makes its way toward the US59-
I69 corridor late in the day. A thin band of storms will probably
continue southeastward and off the coast sometime around 9pm.

Things should quiet down overnight as the storms pass to the east
and southeast and a drier airmass filters in. Coastal locations
could see some isolated rain chances return late Friday night as
onshore winds gradually bring some moisture back inland. 47

&&

.LONG TERM...
(Saturday through Wednesday)
Issued at 415 AM CST Thu Dec 26 2024

There`s a bit of uncertainty on Saturday in terms of if the
lingering frontal boundary from Thursday`s FROPA is still sitting
nearby in a quasi-stationary state, but either way we are expecting
to be in onshore flow in the warm sector of a developing surface low
near the TX/OK border. This is being pushed by yet another midlevel
shortwave trough that swings through the Southern Plains, but this
one is not expected to be as potent as the one from Christmas Eve
and Thursday. PW values surge to near or above the 90th percentile
(~1.37") ahead of an approaching frontal boundary. While we will
have an axis of instability in place and modest bulk layer shear,
the environment for strong to severe storms looks to be more
favorable to our north and east. That`s not to say that we can`t see
a strong storm or two, but the environment for stronger storms gets
more favorable the further north and east you go. A broken line of
showers/storms is expected to accompany the cold front as it pushes
through Southeast TX, especially as it nears the coast due to
greater moisture availability.

Cooler and drier air filters in behind the front as we trade out our
high temperatures in the mid to upper 70s on Saturday to the upper
60s/low 70s on Sunday. Low temperatures will be in the 40s/50s over
the weekend. Surface high pressure kicks out to the east by late
Sunday allowing for onshore flow to return. We`ll be in more of a
southwesterly flow at the surface and 850mb on Monday along with
drier air in place. 850mb temperatures will reach near the 99th
percentile, so we`ll see some fairly warm temperatures on Monday
with highs in the upper 70s and I wouldn`t be surprised to see some
low 80s as well.

Another midlevel shortwave sweeping through the Central Plains will
generate surface low pressure with a subsequent cold front pushing
into Southeast TX Monday night/Tuesday morning. There won`t be
enough moisture in place for rain chances to return with this FROPA,
but there will be plenty of even cooler and drier air in its wake.
The details are a bit murky, but there looks to be a reinforcing
front some time on New Year`s Day (Wednesday) as well. So, we`ll be
entering 2025 in style with high temperatures generally in the low
60s (some upper 50s mixed in up north) and low temperatures in the
30s/40s. This is good news for those wanting an early look into the
New Year`s Eve (Tuesday) forecast to plan for outdoor activities as
you likely will not need a rain jacket. I say likely because the GFS
is currently the only deterministic model that`s showing some rain
chances...but both the NBM and LREF ensembles show a less than 5%
probability of measurable rainfall around midnight on January 1st. A
jacket is recommended though especially if you`ll be outside for an
extended period of time as we`ll have widespread temperatures in the
40s Tuesday night into Wednesday.

Batiste

&&

.AVIATION...
(12Z TAF Issuance)
Issued at 415 AM CST Thu Dec 26 2024

IFR and LIFR conditions, patchy fog and scattered showers will be
the problem into mid morning. Heading into the late morning and
afternoon, ceilings will lift into a mix of MVFR/VFR territory, but
thunderstorms will develop and increase in coverage...some probably
severe (see above). Overall conditions will improve later this
evening as storms push out of the area. Will however need to keep an
eye on some patchy fog development later tonight with wet ground in
place and lowering wind speeds. 47

&&

.MARINE...
Issued at 415 AM CST Thu Dec 26 2024

Light southerly to southeasterly winds this morning will gradually
increase throughout the day as the next storm system approaches.
These elevated winds warrants at least caution flags into late
tonight. A cold front will accompany this storm system, and there
will be showers and thunderstorms both ahead of and along the
frontal boundary. Some of these storms may become strong to severe
and be capable of producing strong winds, hail, and frequent
lightning. Tornadoes and/or waterspouts cannot be ruled out. The
cold front will push towards the coast by this evening, but is
expected to linger near the coast into Friday. Onshore flow
returns by Friday as the lingering boundary retreats northward. As
a result, rain chances remain in forecast till another cold front
pushes through on Saturday leading to a period of northerly flow
before onshore flow returns again late in the weekend.

Until Saturday`s cold front pushes past the coast, there will be
potential for sea fog during the overnight to early morning hours as
dew points remain in the low to mid 60s paired with water
temperatures in the low 60s.

Batiste

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
College Station (CLL) 72 50 70 53 / 80 10 0 10
Houston (IAH) 74 57 72 60 / 90 60 10 20
Galveston (GLS) 70 62 69 63 / 60 60 10 40

&&

.HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
TX...None.
GM...Small Craft Should Exercise Caution from noon CST today through
this evening for GMZ330-335.

Small Craft Should Exercise Caution through this evening for
GMZ350-355-370-375.

&&

$$

SHORT TERM...47
LONG TERM....Batiste
AVIATION...47
MARINE...Batiste
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#900 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:00 am



I just saw the forecast for the PNA and it’s expected to take a dip towards neutral or even slightly negative over the next 2-3 weeks so I think I’m siding with the GEFS here.
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