ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
SapphireSea
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 430
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:13 pm
Location: Miami, FL

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8981 Postby SapphireSea » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:16 pm

adam0983 wrote:What time frame should palm beach county get the most wind.?


Around 7 or 8 pm. Thus far it may be 30 to 40 mph winds with higher gusts on the squalls. Stay home and relax, and stay safe.
0 likes   

KBBOCA
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1559
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:27 am
Location: Formerly Boca Raton, often West Africa. Currently Charlotte NC

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8982 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:16 pm

Dr. Jeff Masters posted this as a comment just a little while ago on his latest blog entry at Wunderground - explains possible effects of ERC


552. Dr. Jeff Masters , Director of Meteorology (Admin)
8:33 PM GMT on October 06, 2016
The Hurricane Hunters just found concentric eyewalls with a diameter of 75 and 12 miles. Radar data also confirms that Matthew is likely going through an eyewall replacement cycle (ERC), where the inner eyewall will collapse and be replaced by a giant outer eyewall with a diameter of 75 miles. If the inner eyewall collapses before Matthew hits Florida, the top winds at landfall might be only Category 2 strength. The down side of an ERC is that it will spread hurricane-force winds out over a larger area, increasing the storm surge. Another issue with a large radius outer eyewall is the potential for prolonged exposure to high winds on the western edge, as the storm moves northward along the coast.

I think Matthew has very little chance of increasing its winds beyond the current advisory intensity of 140 mph.

An experimental version of the SHIPS model run at 2 pm EDT predicts predicts max winds of 111, 105, 102, and 101 kts at 6, 12, 18, and 24 hrs if ERC-weakening begins now. Without the ERC, SHIPS (with inland decay if the storm hits land) predicts 121, 119, 117, and 114 kts.

Jeff Masters
2 likes   

adam0983

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8983 Postby adam0983 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:16 pm

Better start moving west now for that to verify.
1 likes   


User avatar
tarheelprogrammer
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1793
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:25 pm
Location: Raleigh, NC area (Garner, NC)

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8985 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:17 pm

davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Hopefully he is scaring some sense into the ones who are trying to stay. Makes sense to me.
0 likes   
My posts are not official forecasts. They are just my opinion and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Raebie
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 822
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:00 pm
Location: Charlotte, NC

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8986 Postby Raebie » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:18 pm

davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Being his typical drama queen self.
2 likes   

adam0983

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8987 Postby adam0983 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:18 pm

How do we still have a hurricane warning I palm beach county if the winds are only 40mph?
1 likes   

User avatar
Hypercane_Kyle
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:58 pm
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8988 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:18 pm

HRRR, NAM, WRF, et cetera are mesoscale models and weren't design to model TC dynamics. That's why we have the HWRF, for example. Best not to use them.
Last edited by Hypercane_Kyle on Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1 likes   
My posts are my own personal opinion, defer to the National Hurricane Center (NHC) and other NOAA products for decision making during hurricane season.

ronyan
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 791
Age: 39
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:46 pm
Location: Lake Jackson, TX

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8989 Postby ronyan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:18 pm

Any bear sightings on the Florida coast? With some of the attitudes I've heard I wouldn't be surprised.
Last edited by ronyan on Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
3 likes   

AxaltaRacing24
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1753
Age: 25
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:14 am
Location: Jupiter, FL

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8990 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:19 pm

adam0983 wrote:How do we still have a hurricane warning I palm beach county if the winds are only 40mph?

Because hurricane conditions especially in northern palm beach county will begin tonight.
3 likes   

User avatar
artist
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 9792
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:26 pm
Location: West Palm

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8991 Postby artist » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:20 pm

Exactly. Originally he was to be here around 2am, then it was stated, depending on speed anywhere from 11 until around 2.
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Everybody is talking about how lucky we were and how we have been spared. Keep in mind that the storm has not even come in yet. The worst conditions were not even expected until 11pm in the first place.
0 likes   

bob rulz
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1704
Age: 35
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:30 pm
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8992 Postby bob rulz » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:20 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Hopefully he is scaring some sense into the ones who are trying to stay. Makes sense to me.


Christ no. There's a difference between sensible warnings and absurd scaremongering. That is far into the latter.
4 likes   

dukeblue219
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 535
Joined: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:52 pm

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8993 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm

adam0983 wrote:How do we still have a hurricane warning I palm beach county if the winds are only 40mph?


Because the hurricane is still moving and conditions are likely to get worse before they get better, even though the center may not make landfall there. The NHC is definitely not going to reduce a Hurricane Warning to a TS Warning with a Cat4 spinning right off the coast.
1 likes   

davidiowx
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 390
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:07 am
Location: Richmond, TX

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8994 Postby davidiowx » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm

bob rulz wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Hopefully he is scaring some sense into the ones who are trying to stay. Makes sense to me.


Christ no. There's a difference between sensible warnings and absurd scaremongering. That is far into the latter.


Exactly. That is media just being the media of today. That is absurd in my opinion. Fear-mongering at it's finest.
2 likes   

User avatar
ronjon
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4822
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:17 pm
Location: Hernando Beach, FL

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8995 Postby ronjon » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:21 pm

western outer eyewall looks nasty - not far offshore WPB/Ft Laud - buckle up.

https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/fl/miami/amx/?region=pie
0 likes   

bqknight
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 107
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:47 am
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8996 Postby bqknight » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:23 pm

Does anyone have a link to a radar that has more than 10 frames?
0 likes   

User avatar
sbcc
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 206
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:07 pm

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8997 Postby sbcc » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:23 pm

KBBOCA wrote:Can I quickly post a non storm note and say how impressed I am with the Storm 2K servers. You guys must be getting slammed with traffic, and yet the site is operating totally smoothly.

I just sent a donation today as I'm sure you're burning through bandwidth with all the extra traffic.... Hope others will do the same.


I did the same yesterday, first time donation. Same reasons. Been lurking for years here and I've learned so much. The site runs great now. Haven't turned gold yet but I'd guess maybe the staff has other things on their mind right now. :eek:
Last edited by sbcc on Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
3 likes   

hipshot
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 591
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:18 pm
Location: Dallas, Texas

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8998 Postby hipshot » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:23 pm

adam0983 wrote:How do we still have a hurricane warning I palm beach county if the winds are only 40mph?

The storm is still several hours away for crying out loud, give it a rest!!
2 likes   

User avatar
Hurrilurker
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 719
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:32 pm
Location: San Francisco, CA

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#8999 Postby Hurrilurker » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:24 pm

NHC has consistently underestimated Matthew's forecast strength. They keep calling for weakening and Matthew keeps resisting it.
0 likes   

ronyan
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 791
Age: 39
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:46 pm
Location: Lake Jackson, TX

Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9000 Postby ronyan » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:24 pm

bqknight wrote:Does anyone have a link to a radar that has more than 10 frames?


http://weather.graphics/mrms/florida/fl ... r_long.gif
0 likes   


Return to “2016”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests