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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#921 Postby tiger_deF » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:53 am

Hello Hurricane Marco

Either this or next pass should bring an upgrade to cat 1, pressure is already there and winds will mix down eventually
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#922 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:55 am

Massive Theta-E Ridge building in the GoM.
TC's that track into one of these usually rapidly intensify one or two notches.
That is, Cat 1 goes to Cat 2 or 3.

MCS over TX continues to expand and plow to the coast.
Expecting the Rossby wave to weaken and pull back to the new position shown in about 24 hrs.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#923 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:56 am

northjaxpro wrote:
aspen wrote:SFMR jumped up to 55 kt in that hot tower. However, recon has only sampled a tiny portion of the NE quadrant so far.


Tiny cyclones like these can ramp up rapidly. We may be seeing this with Marco this morning.

We definitely are. Looks like the pressure has dropped a few mbar since last pass, and they’re finding 50-55 kt SFMR and 60-70 kt FL winds.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#924 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:58 am

hipshot wrote:
Steve wrote:
hipshot wrote:Or the ridge that is "supposed" to move to the west moves slower and Marco gets pulled to the north or north east toward La.


It’s not just supposed to. It has to happen. Trough isn’t static in timeframe and will wash, retrograde and weaken. Only thing is timing. So yeah, lots of the 00z EPS members liked that scenario. Almost all the rest and I think EC operational move it to Texas.

Check it animated at 500
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 2200&fh=12

Yeah, what I meant was more of a when not if situation with regard to the ridge. Like you said, I think it is a matter of timing and
maybe some interaction with Laura.


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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#925 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:59 am

Might be reformation to the north. HH making a north turn before getting to last center position and reporting 996.4mb.
Or it could be just due north movement.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#926 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:02 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Might be reformation to the north. HH making a north turn before getting to last center position and reporting 996.4mb.


This.

This explains why the winds were so light earlier on the west side. Ummm rapid intensification? :double:
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#927 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 am

MississippiWx wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:Might be reformation to the north. HH making a north turn before getting to last center position and reporting 996.4mb.


This.

This explains why the winds were so light earlier on the west side. Ummm rapid intensification? :double:


I think so, plus it is moving due north imo.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#928 Postby chris_fit » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 am

Marco keeps missing his (short term) forecast points to the N and E - Like every single one pretty much. Crazy!
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#929 Postby tropicwatch » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:07 am

Leaning more towards a reformation, it is approximately 26 miles away from its last reported position.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#930 Postby xironman » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:08 am

The gulfstream mission should give good data to the models for the timing of the ridge.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#931 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:08 am

Radial / Gravity Waves on the top layer of the CDO from a continuous firing hot tower.
100% sure RI is underway.
Somebody needs to wake up Aric.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#932 Postby Jr0d » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:08 am

It appears RI is happening.

Very lucky that recon is out there while it is happening.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#933 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:10 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Leaning more towards a reformation, it is approximately 26 miles away from its last reported position.


I admit I haven’t looked at vort maps yet. But you’d have to think the main energy is in the mid-levels with the low level center wanting to be in the sw portion of the blob but getting sucked back up to the north and east.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#934 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:10 am

Marco has a beautiful appearance on satellite imagery now. Makes you wonder if the lid is about to come off.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#935 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:12 am

Jr0d wrote:It appears RI is happening.

Very lucky that recon is out there while it is happening.


Yes, thankfully we have Recon.out there while it is intensifyng!!
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#936 Postby gfsperpendicular » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:13 am

If Marco is going more NE does that mean the ridge is weaker than we expected?
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#937 Postby MGC » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:13 am

Microcane Marco...MGC
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#938 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:13 am

They flew around the southern end of the hot tower.
No way they were going to fly thru it.
50+ knot south winds at 925mb - that is a massive infeed into the tower.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#940 Postby Kazmit » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:15 am

Wow. ~70kt flight level winds. That escalated quickly.
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