2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#961 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:32 pm

The east Atlantic wave is much more organized on the 18z so far than 12z GFS, also that thing in the Gulf approaching Texas is an interesting signal also.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#962 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:33 pm

IcyTundra wrote:The dry air in the MDR will continue to be a problem. Maybe some of these leading waves can help with reducing the dry air for future waves.


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12z Euro ensembles & 18z GFS giving us a different look. :D
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#963 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:44 pm

18z GFS has something forming in the yucatan channel as well, definitely one of the more active runs in a while
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#964 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:44 pm

18Z GFS has 4 areas of interest.

1. Early next week in the GOM the GFS has some vorticity that moves westward into Texas. Euro and CMC try to make it into a weak system as it approaches Texas.
2. Tropical wave about to come off of Africa. Gets down to 991 MB west of Cabo Verde but begins to weaken and moves westward.
3. 2nd MDR system that is weak probably won't happen because it has issues handling the monsoon trough.
4. Development in the WCAR in about 10 days.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#965 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:01 pm

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18z GFS… Big shift W in TW off Africa, makes big NW jump near Cape Verde then beeline W. Same time GOM cane into Texas. GFS keeps teasing us with the GOM storm.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#966 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:06 pm

12z EPS: Shows two different areas for Hurricane development (~15% probability) on Day 11
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#967 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:20 pm

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18z GFS… GOM came back w/ Cat 2 into TX… Huge W shift for MDR TW, struggles w/ dry air across MDR and finds better conditions in SW Atlantic. Weird NW motion over Cape Verde, will that flatten out and TW won’t gain the latitude before riding under HP??? 18z GEFS should be interesting…
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#968 Postby hurricane2025 » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:22 pm

What I notice with gfs right stout ridge on east coast all the way down to Florida and tons of moisture in gulf
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#969 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:28 pm

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#970 Postby Ianswfl » Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:29 pm

18z GFS ensembles are very active for Florida starting Aug 24th and later. Most of the hits look like from cat1 hurricanes though, not a lot of major members in it. Looks due to land interaction. Still, kinda eye popping if they can avoid land they could be stronger.
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Re: RE: Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#971 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:45 pm

Ianswfl wrote:18z GFS ensembles are very active for Florida starting Aug 24th and later. Most of the hits look like from cat1 hurricanes though, not a lot of major members in it. Looks due to land interaction. Still, kinda eye popping if they can avoid land they could be stronger.
Bear watch at most considerng the not so good conditions
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Re: RE: Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#972 Postby Ianswfl » Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:57 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
Ianswfl wrote:18z GFS ensembles are very active for Florida starting Aug 24th and later. Most of the hits look like from cat1 hurricanes though, not a lot of major members in it. Looks due to land interaction. Still, kinda eye popping if they can avoid land they could be stronger.
Bear watch at most considerng the not so good conditions


One nasty member is from a different system on Aug 29th. Cat4ish hits Key West then same place as Michael. The 24 to 26th system looks like it's the front wave but doesn't crank until around Cuba. But an uptick for sure. With the hot waters, you could have a Charley like intensity instead. Similar path.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#973 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:00 pm

Boy, that is a lot of action going on in the Gulf on the 18z GEFS. :double:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#974 Postby zzzh » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:11 pm

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EPS has some sort of CAG in day 10-15 range.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#975 Postby LarryWx » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:37 pm

GFS runs since 7/31 with hurricane: 3 of last 4

-7/31 12Z: hit SC 8/16
-8/3 6Z: hit MX/TX border 8/16
-8/6 0Z: MDR 8/18-21
-8/9 18Z: just off SC 8/25
-8/11 0Z: GOM just off LA 8/26
-8/13 0Z: GOM 8/26-8
-8/13 6Z: GOM 8/25-6 that hits MS 8/26-7.
-8/13 18Z: GOM 8/25 hits S TX 8/26
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#976 Postby zzzh » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:48 pm

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#977 Postby Teban54 » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:50 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/PNlvKAi.png
EPS has some sort of CAG in day 10-15 range.

Wasn't it mentioned last season that there are zero CAG events on record in August?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#978 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:38 pm

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18z Euro… Now shows a low developing in the Central Atlantic… GFS is slower and farther N, probably due to that early NNW jog near Cape Verde… IMO, both Euro/GFS somewhat agreeing on a TW moving across the Atlantic…
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#979 Postby zzzh » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:46 pm

Teban54 wrote:
zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/PNlvKAi.png
EPS has some sort of CAG in day 10-15 range.

Wasn't it mentioned last season that there are zero CAG events on record in August?

 https://twitter.com/weatherffolkes/status/1690769165924102144



I am not sure on this because Dr. Papin's paper says no August CAG has been observed.
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The main reason why there are little CAG events in August is due to the strong trade. (Note there are 3 CAG events identified in first week of Sep)
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However, with the strong westerlies EPS is showing, I wouldn't say the conditions for CAG in the last week of August is much different that the first week of September.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#980 Postby Ianswfl » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:05 pm

18z euro ensembles out to 144 looks more active and a bit more south with the first wave as well.
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