Windows Vista Service Pack 1
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Aquawind wrote:Did it resolve any issues for you? comments?
I've heard it has caused more problems than solved any, mostly due to incompitable drivers.
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Yes it sounds like you may have to reinstall the drivers..doesn't mention true incompatibility..just improperly installed during the installation. I hope thats the case at least..lol Vista is terrible fluff..
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 68859.aspx
Things to know before you download Windows Vista SP1
Published: March 18, 2008
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Windows Vista SP1 is available in English, French, German, Spanish, and Japanese. Other languages will be made available soon.
Microsoft strongly recommends using Windows Update to download and install Windows Vista SP1 on single PCs:
The download size from Windows Update of Windows Vista SP1 for x86 is 65 MB (compared to 450 MB from the Microsoft Download Center).
The download size from Windows Update of Windows Vista SP1 for x64 is 125 MB (compared to 745 MB from the Microsoft Download Center).
Windows Update will recognize PCs with known problematic drivers and postpone downloading Windows Vista SP1 until the PC has updated drivers or other applicable updates. Using Windows Update will help ensure you have the most trouble-free update experience possible.
Some Windows Vista users may encounter an issue with a small set of hardware devices that may not function properly after updating a Windows Vista PC to Windows Vista SP1. This is an issue with the way the device drivers were re-installed during the Windows Vista SP1 update process, not with the drivers themselves—these drivers worked on Windows Vista RTM and they work on Windows Vista SP1. This problem is typically corrected by simply uninstalling and reinstalling the driver. We are working with the manufacturers of these devices to get the known problematic drivers and their install programs updated, and also on other solutions we can use to ensure a smooth customer experience when updating to Windows Vista SP1 using Windows Update. For new PCs provisioned with Windows Vista SP1, this is not an issue.
If you choose to install Windows Vista SP1 via the standalone installer available on the Microsoft Download Center, Microsoft advises that you first visit Windows Update and install all optional drivers. Read Knowledge Base Articles 948187 and 948343 for more information.
If you have a prior version of the Windows Vista SP1 beta installed, you must uninstall it prior to installing the final version. Use the Control Panel applet "Programs and Features" and select "View installed updates" from the top left of the task pane. Under Windows, look for "Service Pack for Windows (KB936330).
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 68859.aspx
Things to know before you download Windows Vista SP1
Published: March 18, 2008
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Windows Vista SP1 is available in English, French, German, Spanish, and Japanese. Other languages will be made available soon.
Microsoft strongly recommends using Windows Update to download and install Windows Vista SP1 on single PCs:
The download size from Windows Update of Windows Vista SP1 for x86 is 65 MB (compared to 450 MB from the Microsoft Download Center).
The download size from Windows Update of Windows Vista SP1 for x64 is 125 MB (compared to 745 MB from the Microsoft Download Center).
Windows Update will recognize PCs with known problematic drivers and postpone downloading Windows Vista SP1 until the PC has updated drivers or other applicable updates. Using Windows Update will help ensure you have the most trouble-free update experience possible.
Some Windows Vista users may encounter an issue with a small set of hardware devices that may not function properly after updating a Windows Vista PC to Windows Vista SP1. This is an issue with the way the device drivers were re-installed during the Windows Vista SP1 update process, not with the drivers themselves—these drivers worked on Windows Vista RTM and they work on Windows Vista SP1. This problem is typically corrected by simply uninstalling and reinstalling the driver. We are working with the manufacturers of these devices to get the known problematic drivers and their install programs updated, and also on other solutions we can use to ensure a smooth customer experience when updating to Windows Vista SP1 using Windows Update. For new PCs provisioned with Windows Vista SP1, this is not an issue.
If you choose to install Windows Vista SP1 via the standalone installer available on the Microsoft Download Center, Microsoft advises that you first visit Windows Update and install all optional drivers. Read Knowledge Base Articles 948187 and 948343 for more information.
If you have a prior version of the Windows Vista SP1 beta installed, you must uninstall it prior to installing the final version. Use the Control Panel applet "Programs and Features" and select "View installed updates" from the top left of the task pane. Under Windows, look for "Service Pack for Windows (KB936330).
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I had driver issues when I upgraded a machine from windows ME to XP, but I don't remember if any previous operating systems had driver issues caused by the service packs. All those cute features have a heavy price. It's getting too complicated.
Meanwhile, one of my computers with windows NT is still running rock solid without a service pack in almost 10 years.
Meanwhile, one of my computers with windows NT is still running rock solid without a service pack in almost 10 years.
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senorpepr wrote:Nah, Vista doesn't suck. I still haven't had an issue to date.
I loaded Vista SP1--no issues at all.
Same here..
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I am loading it now. I will let you know. So far since I have had vista 2 months or so...I love it. 

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Exactly. Vista is very nice on a new machine, but putting it on a computer designed for XP your just going to get more cons than pros (at least that's what I've heard). That's why I'm just sticking to XP and saving myself the trouble, I'll look into Vista whenever I get a new computer.coriolis wrote:It would be interesting to see if most of the people who have issues are the ones that upgraded from XP on the same machine, vs. those who got vista as OEM on a new machine.
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gtalum wrote:Forget Winblow$. Switch to Linux.
I'm resurrecting an old thread after doing a search here on Linux. gtalum, do you use Linux? Someone recently suggested I switch to Linux (like yesterday) and I've just started a little research as I'm quite unfamiliar with it. What can you tell me about why one should switch? If you use it, how long have you used it and what are the main differences/benefits you've experienced with Linux? And are there any reasons NOT to switch? Any input would be appreciated.
Btw, I know this is a Vista thread, but as of now, all of my computers still have XP. When I bought my laptop, Vista was new and I still had a choice. I went with XP.
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Linux's primary advantages over Windows are the fact that it's open-source (meaning it's free, as is most software you can use on it), it's secure (it's much harder to hack into a Linux system or to get a virus on it), and it's stable and fast. You can find software to do just about anything you do on Windows, and it will be free. Even better, most Linux distributions will allow you to update all software on your computer to the latest version with the click of a button.
If you want to give it a try, I recommend one of the full-featured distributions, especially Ubuntu Linux. It has an excellent user forum where you can learn how to get started and about the features of the system. Ubuntu is particularly nice because it's easy to install and comes loaded with most of the software you'll need, right out of the box. it's probably the most popular version of Linux right now.
If you learn to become very comfortable with Linux, you'll learn its other primary advantage over Windows, which is that the system is very light and very configurable. You can make Linux run very fast even on very old slow machines that will barely run Windows if at all.
If you want to give it a try, I recommend one of the full-featured distributions, especially Ubuntu Linux. It has an excellent user forum where you can learn how to get started and about the features of the system. Ubuntu is particularly nice because it's easy to install and comes loaded with most of the software you'll need, right out of the box. it's probably the most popular version of Linux right now.
If you learn to become very comfortable with Linux, you'll learn its other primary advantage over Windows, which is that the system is very light and very configurable. You can make Linux run very fast even on very old slow machines that will barely run Windows if at all.
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I would have downloaded Linux by now, but there is one fundamental problem that prevents me from doing so:
Game developers do not fully support Linux.
Sure, there are all sorts of things that you can install on your computer to make them work. But it's really quite a waste of time IMO. Besides, games aren't designed for programs like Wine either.
I haven't used the original Vista, but I haven't really noticed much of a difference between Vista and XP besides the fact that errors aren't nearly as annoying in the former as in the latter (might be that my computer is a step up from the junk I've had before?). Only real problem is UAC, which is easily bypassed but ridiculously annoying (even when turned off). Fortunately, they're going to attempt to fix this in Windows 7 (or so I've heard - I haven't actually tried the beta yet).
Game developers do not fully support Linux.
Sure, there are all sorts of things that you can install on your computer to make them work. But it's really quite a waste of time IMO. Besides, games aren't designed for programs like Wine either.
I haven't used the original Vista, but I haven't really noticed much of a difference between Vista and XP besides the fact that errors aren't nearly as annoying in the former as in the latter (might be that my computer is a step up from the junk I've had before?). Only real problem is UAC, which is easily bypassed but ridiculously annoying (even when turned off). Fortunately, they're going to attempt to fix this in Windows 7 (or so I've heard - I haven't actually tried the beta yet).
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Just over a year ago, a friend who had been fixing computers for many years told me that XP is quite good as long as it's the Professional version (which, thankfully, is what I have) and not XP Home. I get few problems with this PC unless I do stupid things like leaving it plugged in during severe electrical storms.southerngale wrote:gtalum wrote:Forget Winblow$. Switch to Linux.
I'm resurrecting an old thread after doing a search here on Linux. gtalum, do you use Linux? Someone recently suggested I switch to Linux (like yesterday) and I've just started a little research as I'm quite unfamiliar with it. What can you tell me about why one should switch? If you use it, how long have you used it and what are the main differences/benefits you've experienced with Linux? And are there any reasons NOT to switch? Any input would be appreciated.
Btw, I know this is a Vista thread, but as of now, all of my computers still have XP. When I bought my laptop, Vista was new and I still had a choice. I went with XP.
During the same conversation I alluded to earlier, my friend advised against Vista but in the computer world a lot can change in a year and I'm glad to hear that some here have found no problems with it.
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I was an early adopter of Vista Business and I've had nothing but good performance and stability. I did purchase a new machine with Vista installed which I think was key. Machines designed after Vista's release should be ok to upgrade to Vista even if you had XP installed initially. The point is that the drivers were developed for both XP and Vista.
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