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Tropical Storm Bonnie Personal Forecasts

#1 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:47 pm

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AL072110 Invest 97L

Definitions (These are my definitions, and are not from the NHC or anywhere else)
o Invest: Area of interest that the National Hurricane Center and others are watching for possible development into a tropical cyclone. Short for investigation; generally of low pressure areas.
o Wind Shear: Directional wind moving in a direction that hinders cyclonic development in the tropics. Shear takes the tops of clouds off the top of a cyclone.
o Cyclogenesis: birth of a cyclone

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Invest 97L is being watched for tropical development;

…Synopsis… An area of low pressure located in the vicinity of 21.5N71W was designated Invest 97L about 48 hours ago, and is beginning to develop into a mature invest. Unfortunately the Hurricane Hunters were delayed until tomorrow due to the disorganization of this system, which will limit my observations to indirect observations for the most part. 97L is a little bit better developed than yesterday at this time, and is beginning to show signs of a low level center. This LLC is only in its primitive stages and will probably relocate numerous times until the entire system develops a bit more. The exact center will not be known until the Hurricane Hunters can get into the area. The entire system is not at all stacked very well. There does seems to be an upper level anticyclone well to the NNW of this possible LLC.

…General Conditions… There may be a NOAA GIV flying around and ahead of 97L later today, but for now I will use CIMSS and Satellite observations. Current visible satellite is showing the effects of 10-20kt shear transversing the system blowing the cloud tops from west to east. Shear only gets stronger in in the probable forecast track of this invest. The main weather story over the state of Florida is the dry air inhibiting rain showers and heating up the peninsula. This same area of dry air should be persistent through the weekend, and may slow growth of this invest. For both of these reasons, I am going to be quite conservative with my forecast.

…Brief Forecast… Intensity is going to be the big questions with this system as the models are not handling intensity well at all. Currently the NHC pegs this invest with 30kt winds and a 1013mb pressure, which seems pretty accurate with the information that we have available. I have seen a few localized observing stations for the general area reporting 1012mb, so this might be a bit more accurate. I am currently more conservative than all of the models in that I do not think this will get up to the 35kt mark for the next 48hrs, but I do think that a Tropical Depression may close off in 24-48 hours, which should be determined by one of the recon flights on day 2. With this intensity, I am going to follow the philosophy of the BAMS, and just south of the consensus models. If 97L gets stronger than I anticipated, this track need to be moved north. With this current forecast, the peninsula of Florida will have 1-2 days with tropical weather and enhanced sea breeze interactions. I think that a minimal tropical storm is possible if the engaging shear decreases and they dry air lifts out.

Forecast Likelihoods:
Forecast Confidence: 40%
97L Cyclogenesis: 40%

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As always, please ask questions of my forecast or comment upon it. Any and all questions and comments will be taken as a constructive educational experience, and are very much welcomed. Thank You!
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Re: Invest 97L Personal Forecasts

#2 Postby petit_bois » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:57 pm

I mostly concer... but <30% in the next 48 hrs.
What about beyond 48hrs?
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#3 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:52 pm

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Here is my first forecast for TD #3. It was created Thursday July 22nd, 2010 at 2:30pm ET.

FRI 12PM - 50mph
LANDFALL 1 - 55mph
SAT 12PM - 40mph
SUN 12PM - 45mph
LANDFALL 2 - 45mph
MON 12PM - 35mph

Track discussion:

A ridge to the north of Tropical Depression #3 should allow a general WNW movement throughout its life cycle. A few jogs toward the N/NW are possible in the short term however as the center tries to relocate under the deeper areas of convection. These northwesterly jogs should be sufficient enough to bring the system into southern Florida for a first landfall instead of passing through/south of the Keys. Once in the Gulf, I expect the overall WNW movement to continue, with a few jogs north or south possible at times. Eventually, the system should move ashore for a second landfall in the vicinity of Louisiana or extreme SE Texas.

Strength discussion:

Tropical Depression #3 should battle periods of shear throughout its life cycle. The shear should not be enough to kill the depression initially, but it will likely be enough to keep the system from ever becoming a hurricane. I expect gradual strengthening into a moderate Tropical Storm before the first landfall in Florida, and then a re-strengethening into a weak/moderate Tropical Storm once back into the Gulf. If shear can diminish more than expected, then the storm may be stronger than forecast (and vice versa).


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VERIFICATION

As of 7/23/10 10:50am ET - So far my forecast has been "ok". I have done pretty well with the track, predicting a landfall closer to Miami instead of through the middle/lower Keys as the NHC had suggested. My timing and strength was a little off though. Instead of still being offshore at noon today, the storm is actually making landfall right now. Also, the storm was never able to organize enough to gain the 50-55mph strength I had predicted, remaining as just a minimal 40mph tropical storm.
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Re: Invest 97L Personal Forecasts

#4 Postby americanre1 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:19 am

I'll go with my optimistic and not pessimistic forecast this time around.

I see Bonnie clipping the very southern tip of Florida as either a strong TS or weak Cat. 1 Hurricane Friday afternoon, and then going into the GoM and pretty much go up to Sabine Pass (just like Rita) as a Strong Cat. 1 weak Cat. 2 Hurricane sometime Monday evening to Tuesday morning.

This is from what I have seen from her in the last couple hours, she is getting in shape and is a very small system which can have RI at anytime without warning.

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