I am hopeful

[wzrgirl1]

I am hopeful that by weekend we will have a storm to track. All this potential has to amount to something soon. It would go against climatology if it didn't. Be just a tad more patient folks, I feel it's coming. The waters are too warm for something not to spin up. Just your inspirational message of the day. Hang in there.....

[Cryomaniac]

The problem, of course, is that people have been saying this every week. So to some people it must seem stale.

[lostsole]

I am on here because I like to track storms, they fascinate me, but I NEVER hope for one to form so I can track it, as I have lost my home and life to one before, so I do not hope that a storm develops just because I am bored and need something to do. There is nothing wrong with enjoying tracking one that has formed, but to hope for one to form is really offensive to me and anyone else that might potentially be in the storm's path. Trust me if a storm were to be bearing down your family and all your belongings you would be hoping that it had never formed. You might want to think about getting an additional hobby to fill in your boredom

[Frank2]

Some might find what you spoke of hard to understand, but perhaps they are too young and have never experienced true suffering and hardship and because of that don't realize that in hoping for a hurricane "to spin up" it also does mean that there is a chance (low perhaps, but still a possibility) that it will head their way and bring suffering to their life and those around them...

Unfortunately as Americans we are used to the "bordom of daily life" and because of that we sometimes find it hard to understand the suffering of others - though as Americans that number did lessen by a certain percentage after 9/11, and after the many American natural disasters of the past 20 or 30 years (volcanoes, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, forest fires - and hurricanes), but even as a Hurricane Andrew victim the true meaning of what a natural disaster can bring didn't mean as much to me until the Tsunami of 2004 - where (according to many sources) as many as 295,000 people were killed in less than 3 hours, and from that point on my thinking was to withhold my own sinful desires to wish for anything to "spin up" and instead strive to focus on what can be done, as a responsible adult, to help inform those of pending disaster, based on my own past experiences in both weather and life...

Hope this helps,

Frank

[wxman57]

To echo Frank2's sentiments above, a number of S2K members lost their homes in recent years due to hurricane impacts. I had to help rebuild my mother's house after Katrina. She definitely doesn't want any storm to track. Many here on the forum don't share your desire for an active season. I'm here because those who live in vulnerable areas have to deal with what develops out there in the tropics.

[Macrocane]

Why do people always discuss this? Is it so hard to understand that there are some members of this forum that are here because they like to track storms and there are other members that are here because they want to be informed if a storm is coming their way?. I agree that we have to be careful with our posts becuase they may seem insensitive sometimes but I don't think anyone on this board wants a disaster.

[Cryomaniac]

I agree that we have to be careful with our posts becuase they may seem insensitive sometimes but I don't think anyone on this board wants a disaster.

Exactly. I have no personal stake in any storms forming (I live in the Eastern UK, so my chances of seeing any more than the remnants of a tropical system are probably <0.01%), but the tropics interests me. As you say though, no-one wishes for a disaster anywhere.

If there are no storms to track, I don't visit the board too much.

[Florida1118]

I agree that we have to be careful with our posts becuase they may seem insensitive sometimes but I don't think anyone on this board wants a disaster.

Exactly. I have no personal stake in any storms forming (I live in the Eastern UK, so my chances of seeing any more than the remnants of a tropical system are probably <0.01%), but the tropics interests me. As you say though, no-one wishes for a disaster anywhere.

If there are no storms to track, I don't visit the board too much.

I agree. I enjoy the tracking and watching them be born too. Should We pelt rocks at tornado chasers because they enjoy watching tornadoes? They all hope they form in some field and harm no one. am I young? it depends on if you think 19 is young. Have I felt Devastation? Yes, Charley took off part of my family roof and landed a giant pine right into my living room and destroyed my family photos. Granted my house wasnt flooded to bad and the walls of my house didnt come crashing down but it was still bad. And yet I love tracking. Why? I dont know. I just do and always have. We just need to prepare and hope for the best. Really we could hate every aspect of weather like lightning, rain, wind...etc. but how could we live if we got mad everytime it rained? I know some of us have been in horrible times and never want it again. I understand. I do. but we live in the hurricanes world so we must do our best to try and get along with them, track and prepare for them and if some of us like to track then thats just us.

[wzrgirl1]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. By the way, I went through Andrew, Wilma and many others and I think that is what got me interested in storms was my fear of them. I think deep down many of you are fascinated with them as well but will not admit it. All I said was that I enjoyed tracking them. I am fascinated with weather and have learned so much since joining this site. If some of you took that the wrong way, than I apologize for insulting you. Each time a storm occurs, I learn a little more. Isn't that why you are all on here to learn? Afterall, knowledge is power. People who don't educate themselves on the power of a hurricane, the models, the steering currents, forecasts, etc. will in turn be unprepared for them. I will say it again, I enjoy weather in all aspects. It's a phenomena that no matter how much we know, we still have that much more that we don't know.

[ikesurvivorinBCTX]

We lost everything but our lives during Hurricane Ike. I don't take it personally when someone wants a storm to "spin up" so they can track it. I am here to learn and I dont come around much but during Hurricane season. I think people that want to see one and track it don't really want it to become a disaster for anyone, but they do happen and sometimes it is a disaster, but the ones that want to track it have no say in where it goes. What will be will be. I know everyone has their own opinion.

I have learned much from this board and I have great respect for the people that help us learn everyday on here. Thank you all.

[wzrgirl1]

We lost everything but our lives during Hurricane Ike. I don't take it personally when someone wants a storm to "spin up" so they can track it. I am here to learn and I dont come around much but during Hurricane season. I think people that want to see one and track it don't really want it to become a disaster for anyone, but they do happen and sometimes it is a disaster, but the ones that want to track it have no say in where it goes. What will be will be. I know everyone has their own opinion.

I have learned much from this board and I have great respect for the people that help us learn everyday on here. Thank you all.

Thanks for your support.

[Frank2]

One important thing to remember is that we don't live in a vacuum or a world that is only of ourselves - this morning I was thinking about this entire issue, and even if we hoped for a hurricane to pass offshore or just close enough to feel it's breeze, that doesn't include the thousands on the sea or in the air who are affected by a hurricane that never makes landfall (the movie Perfect Storm was one example), and it's similar to the V2 tornado of last year - ironically (or not) the only tornado they encountered was one that was a rural tornado, never struck a building and had it's entire life-cycle on the open plains, but as any tornado chaser knows that is very rare, considering that we live in a country with 300 million others...

Here's a current example of what that can mean:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 978222.htm

P.S. I agree that we should always marvel at the wonders of God's nature, but there's a big difference between our wonder of nature and someone who hopes a forest fire will increase because they want to see what a large fire can do...

[Stormcenter]

You can put me down as one of the ones who are here to be "informed".
I wish we would never have to deal with another Katrina type storm ever
again.

[Blown Away]

Except for a few trolls the majority of Storm2k family understands and does not want anybody to suffer from a hurricane disaster. Some overly sensitive folks forget the Talking Tropics forum discusses what may happen and that can be very educational. If you get upset about that there are other forums in Storm2k to get an education w/o having to get upset about someone getting excited about tracking a hurricane across the Atlantic. The hurricanes are gonna happen whether Storm2k talks about it or not.

[Frank2]

As others here have mentioned (myself included) we've seen first-hand what a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane can do to our lives and others, so we're not overly sensitive - just experienced and perhaps know better than to ask for more trouble...

I'll never forget my day of stupid on August 22, 1992, when the late Dr. Burpee (then HRD) mentioned that it seemed Andrew was beginning to move NW (away from South Florida) and my response, "Aww - I just wanted to have fun!"

Well, I got my share of "fun" all right - for the next 5 years - of moving, moving again, and again, changing jobs, loss of friends (two who passed on less than 12 months later, both being "average" cancer patients in a clinical sense but perhaps the stress of Andrew made their illness accelerate, and the suicide of another friend) the loss of my normal sleep pattern for a few months after Andrew ("normal" as they say for folks who suffered a trauma) - my list of post-Andrew related problems went on and on...

Of my nursing friends directly involved with Andrew, one who's husband lost a finger during Andrew (while trying to hold a door from opening - an extreme gust of wind blew the door open and a finger became caught), and another nurse who's mind and body dealt with the trauma by having a loss of voice for 6 months - fun, huh?

So as the saying goes, "Be careful what you ask for - you might get it!"

Frank

P.S. I still love weather - thunderstorms are my favorite - but I'm definitely more careful when it comes to my "wish list"...

[SoupBone]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. By the way, I went through Andrew, Wilma and many others and I think that is what got me interested in storms was my fear of them. I think deep down many of you are fascinated with them as well but will not admit it. All I said was that I enjoyed tracking them. I am fascinated with weather and have learned so much since joining this site. If some of you took that the wrong way, than I apologize for insulting you. Each time a storm occurs, I learn a little more. Isn't that why you are all on here to learn? Afterall, knowledge is power. People who don't educate themselves on the power of a hurricane, the models, the steering currents, forecasts, etc. will in turn be unprepared for them. I will say it again, I enjoy weather in all aspects. It's a phenomena that no matter how much we know, we still have that much more that we don't know.

Your overall thought was fine but "I am hopeful that by weekend we will have a storm to track." was simply a poor choice of wording. I understood what you meant though....no worries.

[WeatherEmperor]

Ok I gotta chime in here:

Guys, she said and I quote: "I am hopeful that by weekend we will have a storm to track"

Key Word = track

What part of that sentence is so difficult to understand? She NEVER said that she is hopeful that by weekend we will have a storm to hit land. She just wants a storm to "track". What is wrong with that? If Wendy had said that she wanted to see a storm devastate land, that would be something else but aren't we all here to "track" storms?

<RICKY>

[Portastorm]

Yes, I believe we are here to track storms. And, I also believe that this thread is quickly winding up. Unless anyone else has something of value to add to the discussion, I see little reason to continue this dialogue.

[Blown Away]

If folks talking about wanting a hurricane to track upsets you and brings back painful memories, then why do you come to this forum? You know this is the "Talking Tropics" forum? Maybe there needs to be another forum for these folks? "I Hope For No Hurricanes" forum?? Just an idea?

[KWT]

One thing I always wonder about is why the big CV systems only get say maybe 100-150 pages...and yet a weak TS like Bonnie will get more then a ajor hurricane that recurves...

If only tracking a system matters to people, then the big CV system would have more attention then the small TS...but the fact Bonnie was close to the US and therefore making landfall meant it got more attention despite probably being less interesting overall.

What I suppose I'm saying is I bet alot of people find a system that threatens land far more interesting then a CV fish that could become a lot stronger then the one close to land.