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why europeans hate george bush

#1 Postby rainstorm » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:00 pm

WHY EURO-WEENIES HATE GEORGE BUSH.

President Bush will be facing demonstrators in England today. No big news. American presidents face demonstrations everywhere they go .. .even in this country.

I think, though, I have a bit of a handle on why so many Europeans literally hate George Bush. I can explain it with this scenario:

You're walking down the street when you notice a house on fire. The flames are just beginning to lick at some windows. From inside that house you hear screams. A mother is pleading for someone to come help her look for her babies.

You're frozen with fear out there on that sidewalk. You know there are children in that house, and you know the mother is in there trying to save them. You know they may all die, but you can't move out of your tracks on that sidewalk. You're afraid. After all, what if you get burned trying to save those people? What if you die? Maybe the flames will die out on their own? You're perfectly willing to stand in the yard with a garden hose trying to contain the flames .. but actually going in there? No way!

While you're standing there doing nothing, here comes this swaggering American in a cowboy hat. A damned Texan. The Texan sees the fire, hears the screams for help, throws down his hat and runs into the house. Minutes later he emerges with the woman and her children. They're safe.

What about you? You feel like a coward. That Texan has made you feel small .. he took your manhood. He showed you for the coward that you are in front of all of those people who were watching the spectacle. Those people know that they were more like you than like the Texan; after all, they stood by you in doing nothing. God, you hate him so. You hate him because he displayed the courage you only wish you had. Oh, you're glad he rescued that woman and her children; but why couldn't it have been you?

Suck it up, Europe. It's not like this is the first time Americans have had to do the job you should have done in the first place, and it probably won't be the last.
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#2 Postby AussieMark » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:38 pm

Without Ruffling anyone's feathers or getting to Political

Can u explain why the USA didn't get rid of Saddam back in 1991 when they had the chance....a lot of peoples lives could have been saved if they had.
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#3 Postby stormchazer » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:58 pm

tropicalweatherwatcher wrote:Without Ruffling anyone's feathers or getting to Political

Can u explain why the USA didn't get rid of Saddam back in 1991 when they had the chance....a lot of peoples lives could have been saved if they had.


Because we succumbed to pressure from the Arab countries at the time and we miscalculated. We thought Sadam would fall under the weight of the people. We were wrong.
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#4 Postby sunnyday » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:02 pm

Euro weenies is a disrespecful term, isn't it? I'm sure not all people in Europe dislike Bush. Hate is a strong term, too. I don't think they see him as a swaggering cowboy hero, for sure.
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#5 Postby coriolis » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:12 pm

Go rent the movies "For a few dollars more" and "the good the bad and the ugly"

This will give some insights about how Americans think.

1. Your ally today can be your enemy tomorrow.
2. Bad guys can be useful against a worse guy.
3. When the worse guy is taken care of, go after the bad guy.
4. A good guy can pose as a bad guy to get the really bad guy.
5. Innocent people can get hurt.
6. It's a good, bad, and ugly world out there. Thinking that it's all one way is a mistake.
7. There can be a fine line between good and bad.
8. It's not always clear who is the good or the bad guy, but if you're ugly AND bad, there's no doubt.
9. After the 3 hour movie is over the good guy wins.
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#6 Postby stormchazer » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:14 pm

coriolis wrote:Go rent the movies "For a few dollars more" and "the good the bad and the ugly"

This will give some insights about how Americans think.

1. Your ally today can be your enemy tomorrow.
2. Bad guys can be useful against a worse guy.
3. When the worse guy is taken care of, go after the bad guy.
4. A good guy can pose as a bad guy to get the really bad guy.
5. Innocent people can get hurt.
6. It's a good, bad, and ugly world out there. Thinking that it's all one way is a mistake.
7. There can be a fine line between good and bad.
8. It's not always clear who is the good or the bad guy, but if you're ugly AND bad, there's no doubt.
9. After the 3 hour movie is over the good guy wins.


Good analagy...I think. :-?
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#7 Postby coriolis » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:36 pm

Also, we didn't want to totally destroy him because Iran could have made gains. See #2 above.
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bush 1 caved to the un, and "world" opinion

#8 Postby rainstorm » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:04 pm

tropicalweatherwatcher wrote:Without Ruffling anyone's feathers or getting to Political

Can u explain why the USA didn't get rid of Saddam back in 1991 when they had the chance....a lot of peoples lives could have been saved if they had.
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i see it the same as if

#9 Postby rainstorm » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:13 pm

we had stopped at germanys borders in ww2 and let hitler stay in power
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#10 Postby Stephanie » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:16 pm

rainstorm wrote:we had stopped at germanys borders in ww2 and let hitler stay in power


I agree with that analogy.
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#11 Postby streetsoldier » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:24 pm

The 1991 mandate was clear, to appease the Arab countries...our SOLE job was to expel Iraq from Kuwait (another Arab country). We COULD have gone "the extra mile" easily, but we'd have lost "the Arab street"...a mistake we are rectifying right NOW, and damn "the Arab street" (from which most of Al Qaida's "fighters" are recruited, which already renders them suspect at best).
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#12 Postby Guest » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:42 am

Let me suggest you a couple of readings, both from Samantha Power
(you know, she wn the pulitzer price this year):
"A problem from Hell: America at the age of Genocide"
and "Liberalism and American Power".

Some analysts here in the old Europe see that in America there's a "paramilitary" culture well build by republicans (pride to be American, weapons, life contempt).
Election of Schwarzy is an evidence, one of his sponsor is that talk show anchorman Roger Hedgecock. You know probably better than me how those talks on Kogo600 go: frustration goes up in California's traffic jams; commuters made fierce by economic crisis, job uncertainty are easy preys of those that indicate as scapegoat immigrants from Mexico, stowaways, welfare beneficaries.
Schwarzy is the lonely hero that has no friends, distrust women, and ignore governs (often fight them).

Can u see some analogies?
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#13 Postby Guest » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:40 am

stormchazer wrote:
coriolis wrote:Go rent the movies "For a few dollars more" and "the good the bad and the ugly"

This will give some insights about how Americans think.

1. Your ally today can be your enemy tomorrow.
2. Bad guys can be useful against a worse guy.
3. When the worse guy is taken care of, go after the bad guy.
4. A good guy can pose as a bad guy to get the really bad guy.
5. Innocent people can get hurt.
6. It's a good, bad, and ugly world out there. Thinking that it's all one way is a mistake.
7. There can be a fine line between good and bad.
8. It's not always clear who is the good or the bad guy, but if you're ugly AND bad, there's no doubt.
9. After the 3 hour movie is over the good guy wins.


Good analagy...I think. :-?


have you noticed that those two movies are Italian? The famous "spaghetti western" :wink:
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#14 Postby stormchazer » Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:41 am

PaolofromRome wrote:
stormchazer wrote:
coriolis wrote:Go rent the movies "For a few dollars more" and "the good the bad and the ugly"

This will give some insights about how Americans think.

1. Your ally today can be your enemy tomorrow.
2. Bad guys can be useful against a worse guy.
3. When the worse guy is taken care of, go after the bad guy.
4. A good guy can pose as a bad guy to get the really bad guy.
5. Innocent people can get hurt.
6. It's a good, bad, and ugly world out there. Thinking that it's all one way is a mistake.
7. There can be a fine line between good and bad.
8. It's not always clear who is the good or the bad guy, but if you're ugly AND bad, there's no doubt.
9. After the 3 hour movie is over the good guy wins.


Good analagy...I think. :-?


have you noticed that those two movies are Italian? The famous "spaghetti western" :wink:


Okay...you got us. :lol:
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