this from his winter storm discussion tonight.
"Incidentally, the Clipper following this storm looks even less impressive than before, and the models continue to be wildly variant on the storm for next week... though most favor more of a rain than snow solution. So, nothing big foreseen unless next week's storm takes a turn for a colder solution. "
Cosgrove, bastardi, tolleris, RNS, HM, meteo etc likely to give in to overwhelming model consensus as well and start honking for: potential flooding and rapid snowmelt next week into xmas
Sorry to be so negative, but wxrisk's screaming pacific jet firehose has hosed up our christmas SECS! Damn!
Gary Gray giving up on next week's storm.
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Ji wrote:that settles it--
if Gary Gray gives up on it 8 days out-so do i.
Bring on January 14th
Now you're in my camp! The Truth Shall Set You Free. I'll admit that just because the operational MR models have nothing going, doesn't mean it can't be an active end of year and early Jan. But I don't see a strong signal for such in the ensembles. But reading ensembles out beyond a week to ten days, and the means, requires some real experience (to do so correctly at least), or a good imagination!

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Jb will give up next weeks storm at all
gary grey does only when he thinks there is lot of models support . Jb looks at the whole pattern even if the models don't show it and he been very good this winter.
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