FROM RUSH LIMBAUGH, over for bush??

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FROM RUSH LIMBAUGH, over for bush??

#1 Postby rainstorm » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:53 pm

"You know it's maddening to watch this. I understand how everybody feels about this. But there's no turning this around in any time soon with any stroke of a magic wand or anything. I mean, you can see that the press is so clearly aligned and ecstatic about this. I mean all the people are now coming out with the different treatments that the press gave all of the Clinton whistle-blowers; like one of the things being said, remember Linda Tripp, Saturday Night Live doing impersonations on how fat she was, how stupid she looked, and John Goodman, who weighs about 500 pounds, to come in there and portray Linda Tripp and they tried to discredit her by making fun of her personally -- something that the left says you never should do -- and Kathleen Willey and all this sort of stuff. But here comes Richard Clarke and the White House is defending itself and attempt to go put out its version of the story, and of course the press is in unison saying this is the most savage attack against a great American why we've ever seen and you're sitting here watching this, you're going nuts, where's the fairness? You know, it's not enough to say you shouldn't be surprised, the press is who they are, the partisan media is who they are and they are trying to change things as they always have, and as they always will. So that sort of sets the table.


There are a number of different ways that all of this could be looked at today, a number of different ways that this could be attacked. But the answer, I think for this, is for the White House to figure out a way to go back on offense. You know, constantly sitting around and waiting for the latest outrage from the left and then responding to it doesn't advance anything. And if it does anything it just stanches the bleeding, puts a whole in the dike, or a finger in the hole of the dike, but it doesn't advance anything and clearly the momentum now appears to be with the partisan media and their hero, Richard Clarke. Now, we'll take some shots today and try to chink the armor a little bit, but we're in the midst of a full-court press here. We're in the midst of a full-court press to return Democrats to power, to return John Kerry to the White House, or get him to the White House and to get rid of Bush. "

listening to rush today, you could tell he was desperate. quite frankly, i think its over. i have always said the media would decide the election
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#2 Postby chadtm80 » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:58 pm

Who Flip Flops more? Rainstorm?? Or Kerry??
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#3 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:59 pm

Tough choice. ROFL!!
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#4 Postby Guest » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:03 pm

chadtm80 wrote:Who Flip Flops more? Rainstorm?? Or Kerry??



Very tough Choice here Chad?????? :lol: LMAO
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#5 Postby rainstorm » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:03 pm

By the way, from what I'm told, this is just the surface that's been scratched because there's yet another book coming from Viacom, the same publisher and the deal with 60 Minutes is being worked out to give that author, Bob Woodward, airtime to promote that book. And I'm told, by the way, that the Woodward book makes this one look like, you know, an afternoon in the sandbox, and it's coming not too long down the road in the upcoming months.

from rush, more coming!! when rush says things like this, you know its bad. just last week he was optimistic. it doesnt matter anymore what kerry says or does, because this is now about taking bush down, and i dont think there is any stopping it.
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#6 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:06 pm

Not going to happen.
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#7 Postby rainstorm » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:17 pm

from drudge:

11 COMMISSION TO ASK CONDOLEEZA RICE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH...

White House officials worked Monday evening to negotiate compromise that would allow public release of Condoleezza Rice testimony before commission looking into 9/11, the WASHINGTON POST and NY TIMES are planning to report in Tuesday editions. White House did not allow a recording to be made of what Rice said when she met privately with commissioners for 4 hours in Feb. However, staff members have notes that were described as being nearly verbatim.... MORE... Rice may submit to another private session with the commissioners and allow them to release a transcript... 'I would like to have her testimony under the penalty of perjury' the commission's chairman says... Two Dem senators, Ed Kennedy and Charles Schumer, planned to introduce formal resolution in the Senate calling on Rice to testify under oath, the LOS ANGELES TIMES reporting in its bulldog edition...

this is a bombshell waiting to explode. the dems want rice under oath. why? they will find one thing, and the media wil back them up, that seems to imply perjury. once they find that, rice will be forced to resign. the wheels are coming off.
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#8 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:18 pm

My gosh Helen, she has BEEN under oath since the first time she gave her statements. Why cant you see this for what it is!
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#9 Postby mf_dolphin » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:19 pm

It's only a bombshell if she did someting wrong lol Take a valium Helen!
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#10 Postby rainstorm » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:26 pm

she wasnt under oath, it was a private meeting. it doesnt matter if she did anything wrong. the media is out to destroy her
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#11 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:26 pm

rainstorm wrote:she wasnt under oath, it was a private meeting. it doesnt matter if she did anything wrong. the media is out to destroy her


She is under oath! Same rules apply in private Helen.
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#12 Postby rainstorm » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:36 pm

i have to disagree there. rice will be destroyed along with bush. they have 1 chance left. bush will have to testify under oath in front of the nation. i still think he should resign. not because he is a bad pres, but because the media does not like him.
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#13 Postby rainstorm » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:14 am

rice did not testify under oath. but she will now:

DICK CLARKE DIDN'T HAVE TO TESTIFY IN 1999.....SO WHY SHOULD RICE?

It looks like the White House is about to cave in and either allow Condoleezza Rice to testify under oath in front of the 9/11 Commission, or have a transcript of her comments read into the record. If this happens, score a victory for the leftist media. These reporters, editors and producers knew what the true story was here ... but they just couldn't resist the temptation to climb on board with their Democrat partners to hammer the Bush White House ... while failing, somehow, to really cover the other side of the story.

Now we have an interesting little tidbit from the Clinton era. In 1999 the Senate convened a special committee on the Y2K square. The committee wanted testimony from none other than Richard Clarke. That's right .. the very same Richard Clarke. The great apologizer that would have prevented 9/11 if only people had listened to him, So ... did Clarke testify? No, he didn't. And why not? Because the Clinton White House refused to permit him to testify, citing executive privilege. That is the very same reason the Bush White House is giving for their refusal to allow Dr. Rice to testify under oath before this commission.

As for the Democrats' argument that Rice can appear on TV, but not before the commission, there is a difference. One is sworn testimony under penalty of perjury, and one is not. Presidential advisers don't testify under oath. They don't now, and they didn't five years ago when Clinton refused to allow Richard Clarke to do so. Why is this so hard for some people to understand? Must be the government schools.
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#14 Postby j » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:52 am

Helen....get back on the right side. If every Republican had your negative attitude about Bush, he might as well hang it up now.

Are you sure your not in the Kerry camp?
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Poll suggests Bush strengthening against Kerry

#15 Postby stormchazer » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:05 am

Helen....maybe this will calm your nerves.


Poll suggests Bush strengthening against Kerry
Respondents in statistical dead heat on election



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Despite a week of negative headlines about how his administration handled the threat of terrorism before September 11, 2001, President Bush's political position against Sen. John Kerry has strengthened, according to a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

The poll results -- gathered between Friday and Sunday -- suggest that the Bush campaign's attempts to paint Kerry as a tax-raising liberal who flip-flops on the issues has affected the race more than recent charges that the Bush administration didn't put enough focus on the threat of terrorism before 9/11.

In his book, "Against all Enemies," and in testimony to the 9/11 Commission, former White House counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke has said the administration did not act on repeated warnings before 9/11 that an al Qaeda attack could be imminent.

Among likely voters surveyed, 51 percent said they would choose Bush for president, while 47 percent said they would vote for Kerry, within the margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. (Full story)

Three weeks ago, as Kerry was cinching the Democratic nomination with a string of primary victories, he led the president by 8 points in a hypothetical head-to-head catchup among likely voters, 52 percent to 44 percent. (CNN.com Special Report: America Votes 2004)

Meanwhile, the Bush-Cheney campaign is releasing a new television ad, again painting Kerry as a tax-raising liberal -- this time using rising gasoline prices as fuel.

In a commercial called "Wacky" -- shot in the style of an old black-and-white movie -- the new Bush commercial floats the notion that Sen. John Kerry would raise gas taxes, if elected.

"Some people have wacky ideas, like taxing gasoline more -- so people will drive less. That's John Kerry. He supported a 50 cent gas tax," an announcer says in the ad set to air Wednesday on national cable networks and in 18 states.

"If Kerry's gas tax increase were law -- the average family would pay $657 more a year. Raising taxes is a habit of Kerry's -- he supported gasoline taxes 11 times. Maybe John Kerry just doesn't understand what his ideas mean to the rest of us."

The spot ends with the words "John Kerry -- Wrong on Taxes" on the screen.

In a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday, respondents were asked if they thought their own taxes would go up if Kerry wins the election -- 58 percent said yes, while only 29 percent said no.

Kerry on gasoline: 'Halliburton prices'
Kerry took aim at the Bush administration during a campaign fund-raiser in San Francisco, California, late Monday.

"I noticed that gas is now close to three dollars a gallon here in California. If it keeps going up like that, folks, pretty shortly Cheney and President Bush are going to have to carpool to work together," the Massachusetts senator deadpanned.

While Kerry overstated the price of gasoline -- San Diego is highest in the nation, averaging $2.12 a gallon in Sunday's Lundberg Survey of U.S. filling stations -- California does have the highest average prices in the country.

"These are not Exxon prices -- those are Halliburton prices," Kerry said, poking at the company formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney. Both the Pentagon and Justice Department have launched criminal investigations of the company accused of overcharges in services provided in Iraq.

Democratic critics say Halliburton is an example of war profiteering by companies friendly to the Bush administration. Company and administration officials say politics had nothing to do with Halliburton's contracts in Iraq.

"You have to give this administration credit because they clearly understand the connection between gas prices and the economy, because their approach to a solution of these high gas prices is just to make sure no one has a job to drive to," Kerry said at the San Francisco fund-raiser.

The Bush administration has presided over the loss of more than 2 million jobs in an economy adversely affected by the dot-com bust, a recession and post-9/11 terrorism fears.

However, Bush has highlighted an increase in American productivity, home ownership and an unemployment rate of 5.6 percent -- below the average unemployment rate for the last three decades.

Bush will travel to Wisconsin on Tuesday to tell area and business leaders there that the nation is on the path to recovery from recession.

Cheney, Kerry trade barbs
Cheney, who has emerged in recent weeks as the administration's point man in critiquing Kerry, blasted the four-term senator's record in a speech Monday before the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

"He has pledged that if elected president he will repeal many of the Bush tax cuts in his first hundred days in office," Cheney said. "He says he will keep some of those cuts, never mind that he opposed each one of them at the time.

"He has given the usual assurances that in those first hundred days, he is planning only the wealthiest Americans can expect higher taxes. But voters are entitled to measure that campaign promise against Senator Kerry's long record in support of higher taxes for virtually every income group."

On Monday, the Bush-Cheney campaign released a radio ad titled "the man from Massachusetts" that said Kerry voted for higher taxes "at least 350 times," a point Cheney also made in his speech.

The Bush campaign arrived at that figure by counting Kerry's votes against tax cuts and votes for smaller tax cuts, as well as votes for tax increases, according to the watchdog Web site FactCheck.org.

From Sacramento, California, Kerry struck back at the criticism. He poked fun at Cheney's relatively low profile until lately, using language administration figures had employed when describing Cheney's whereabouts during terror alerts.

"They have found Dick Cheney in an undisclosed location and brought him out to attack me," Kerry said. "That seems to be his designated role -- not to create jobs -- but to attack John Kerry."

And he sharply accused the administration of not "telling the truth" on a host of issues.

"They cannot seem to find the truth -- or tell the truth -- or if they find the truth, they don't like it so much because it is the truth of 3 million jobs lost; it is a truth of millions of children being left behind because of the broken promise of No Child Left Behind," Kerry said. "It is the truth of no health care plan for Americans as health care costs go up and up. It is the truth of going backwards on the environment."

According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2.2 million jobs have been lost since January 2001.

Earlier, Kerry visited a business-education center where he talked with adult students learning car repair.

"I hope we get this economy moving and keep you busy," he told them.

Kerry also attended a Cesar Chavez youth forum at California State University in Sacramento. Kerry described the late union organizer for farm workers as an American hero.

Tuesday's campaign schedule has Kerry in San Diego.
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#16 Postby JQ Public » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:02 pm

chadtm80 wrote:Who Flip Flops more? Rainstorm?? Or Kerry??


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#17 Postby Lindaloo » Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:30 pm

LOL JQ!!
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