SADR TO RENOUNCE VIOLENCE? victory for bush?

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SADR TO RENOUNCE VIOLENCE? victory for bush?

#1 Postby rainstorm » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:01 pm

just reported on fox that al sadr is negotiating that he will renounce violence if we dont arrest him.
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#2 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:02 pm

I prefer unconditional surrender
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#3 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:03 pm

No conditions. PERIOD!
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#4 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:04 pm

Thanks, but no thanks
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#5 Postby rainstorm » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:07 pm

uhh, lets get real. i think what we are seeing here is sadr realizing we wont leave iraq. this is a victory for bush if this really happens. one condition is we should demand the ones who killed the americans be turned over to us.
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#6 Postby chadtm80 » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:08 pm

It will be a victory when we have his lil azz
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#7 Postby rainstorm » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:13 pm

i disagree. if this actually happens, it would be much better for us and the future iraqi govt for sadr to renounce violence than to make a martyr out of him. once again though, the liberal press has been made fools of.
civil war?
sunnis and shias working together?
iraq in revolt?
the liberal media simply wants us to fail
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#8 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:34 pm

He should not be able to surrender under his own terms Helen. That is not they way we operate.
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#9 Postby rainstorm » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:53 pm

i disagree. i think if we keep fighting till we kill him, then others will fight to the death.
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#10 Postby coriolis » Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:48 pm

sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.
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#11 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:11 pm

coriolis wrote:sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.


Well said! I agree 100%.
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#12 Postby rainstorm » Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:54 am

you may be right. this morning it is starting to sound like viet nam, with our soldiers every move being controlled in washington. not a good sign at all.
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#13 Postby Stephanie » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:09 am

coriolis wrote:sure, he renounces violence to save his skin, and he lives to fight another day. His offer to negotiate is a sign of weakness. I say finish him off. If it sets off another round of violence, so be it. It will flush out the remaining fighters.

There's no negotiating with these people. They're fanatics.


I agree as well. There's always going to be another group that's going to want to bring us down.
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#14 Postby stormchazer » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:43 am

Arrest him first, then let him negotiate!
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#15 Postby j » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:45 am

I will be very dissapointed if we negotiate period!
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#16 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:54 am

Me too.

Heck, didn't Clinton even say one time (after the Kobar Towers attack, I believe), "The US does not negotiate with terrorists?" (Not that he really did anything else about them, but at least he got that part right. :) )
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#17 Postby streetsoldier » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:07 pm

Well, folks, NO negotiations...CENTCOM has again stated that policy is either the capture or death of al Sadr.
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#18 Postby Stephanie » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:10 pm

Good!
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#19 Postby coriolis » Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:05 pm

Well they're still talking.... A unilateral cease fire on our part at one of the locations. I wonder if some sort of "feel good" exit strategy is forming. It's been done before.
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#20 Postby Corona » Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:49 am

rainstorm wrote:i disagree. if this actually happens, it would be much better for us and the future iraqi govt for sadr to renounce violence than to make a martyr out of him...


That's right and he picked up on the points Streetsoldier made regarding CENTCOM, so he toned down his rhetoric in response. He would be more easy to handle than the angry fanatics left behind if he was 'taken out' in the final sense. Big hands with kid gloves time now.
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