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GULP!! WATCH OUT IN OHIO VALLEY TOMORROW!!!

#1 Postby yoda » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:46 pm

...MID MS VLY ACROSS THE MIDWEST TO THE UPPER OH VLY...
12Z ETA/GFS STILL APPEAR TO BE OVER-AMPLIFYING FEATURES SIMILAR TO
PREVIOUS RUNS OWING TO CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK PROBLEMS. SEE HPC MODEL
DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR FURTHER DETAILS. FORECAST DETAILS WILL
RELY HEAVILY ON CONVECTIVE EVOLUTION TODAY/TONIGHT AND ALSO ON THE
MAGNITUDE OF AMPLIFICATION THAT INDEED OCCURS.

A MCS SHOULD BE ONGOING ACROSS PARTS OF THE CORN BELT AND UPPER MS
VLY EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. TSTMS SHOULD INTENSIFY ALONG SRN EDGE
OF THIS MCS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AS BOUNDARY LAYER WARMS. MODEL
FORECAST SOUNDINGS/HODOGRAPHS VCNTY LOW AND E-W BOUNDARY THROUGH NRN
IND AND NRN OH WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF TORNADOES GIVEN VERY STRONG
LOW LEVEL SHEAR. AGAIN MODELS MAY BE OVER-AMPLIFYING FEATURES. IF
MODEL GUIDANCE IS CORRECT...SUPERCELL TORNADO POTENTIAL WILL BE HIGH
OVER PARTS OF THE AREA ESPECIALLY WITH INITIAL TSTM DEVELOPMENT.

MORE LIKELY SCENARIO WILL BE FOR A BOW ECHO OR TWO TO TRACK FROM THE
MID/UPPER MS VLY ESEWD ACROSS THE MIDWEST TO THE OH VLY. BOUNDARY
LAYER DEW POINTS WILL REMAIN VERY MOIST /70S/ AND MODEST
UNIDIRECTIONAL FLOW WILL EXIST ABOVE H85. THUS...KINEMATIC/
THERMODYNAMIC SET-UPS WILL BE HIGHLY FAVORABLE FOR BOW ECHOES WITH
DAMAGING WINDS/HAIL AND FUTURE OUTLOOKS MAY NEED TO BE UPGRADED.


(per SPC 1730 outlook) :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#2 Postby therock1811 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:00 pm

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#3 Postby NWIASpotter » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:04 pm

Those bow echoes can be pretty dangerous. My area had one move through that actually formed into a rotating comma. Winds were actually clocked in Lakefield, MN at 100 mph!!! Jackson, MN, Lake Park, IA, and several other areas throughout NW IA, and SW MN had winds around 80 to 90 mph. A silo was blown onto interstate 90 and was blocking traffic for a while. That bow echo is still going strong too...
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#4 Postby yoda » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:17 pm

This is interesting...

...A TORNADO WARNING CONTINUES FOR NORTHERN GREENE COUNTY UNTIL 430
PM CDT...

AT 402 PM CDT RADAR INDICATED A THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A
TORNADO OVER CHURDAN...OR ABOUT 30 MILES SOUTHWEST OF FORT DODGE...
MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH.

THE STORM WILL BE...

7 MILES NORTH OF JEFFERSON AROUND 410 PM CDT AND
NEAR DANA AROUND 415 PM CDT.

AT 356 PM...NWS SPOTTERS REPORTED A FUNNEL CLOUD NEAR CHURDAN...BUT
AS OF 402 PM AMATUER RADIO SPOTTERS DID NOT SEE A FUNNEL.


AT 403 PM...NWS SPOTTERS REPORTED PENNY SIZE HAIL IN CHURDAN.

THIS IS STILL A HAZARDOUS SITUATION. SEEK SHELTER IN A
BASEMENT...OR IN AN INTERIOR ROOM. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. IF YOU
ARE OUTSIDE OR IN A CAR...SEEK SHELTER IN A REINFORCED BUILDING.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 500 PM CDT
TUESDAY AFTERNOON FOR NORTHERN IOWA. A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH ALSO
REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 700 PM CDT TUESDAY EVENING FOR NORTHEASTERN
IOWA.


What exactly is going on? Did the funnel dissappear? :eek: :lol:
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#5 Postby Guest » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:56 pm

Yep it could be a explosive day tomorrow for the OV from IL east to OH including N.KY and perhaps as far north as Southern MI. Thats iffy at best right now as it seems the best energy will be found in IL heading into IN. I will put some more thought into this later but for now i would keep checking back in if i live anywhere from IL into KY eastward and even including southern MI on east.
Target zone looks to be from about i70 on shouth at this point but could change later so please check back in for more updates on this.
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#6 Postby USAwx1 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:51 pm

Im concerned about it also. This afternoon’s 12z ETA had a potent s/w located over ERN IA at 12z WED w/ 1004mb SLP over NRN MO and warm front extending across Central IL.

We also notice a VERY potent 110-120 KT jet maximum over the northern lakes and SRN Ontario at 12z associated with the unusually strong vortex in ERN Canada which the ETA actually indicates will intensify by 18z to almost 125 KT as it approaches New England. This places MUCH of the Western lakes, and later the central lakes, NRN IN and OH within the Right rear quadrant of that speed maximum—favorable for upper-level divergence and intense vertical motion w/ PVA increasing as the s/w approaches from the west.

BACKING of the flow will occur INVOF the warm front as it moves eastward and the 850H low approaches the region w/ winds backing from E at the surface to westerly around 500H indicative of pretty decent directional shear. S of the boundary, the flow will be less backed and more unidirectional.

The BEST potential for tornadoes will be along the warm front where LLVL SRH and directional shear are maximized. IF the 12z ETA solution is correct—this should be NRN IL, IN and OH, as well as Portions of SRN MI. This is also the region where The Instability axis intersects the strongest deep layer shear.

Further south, LESS of a tornado threat; however instability is decent w/ ML CAPE up to 2500J and severe weather still a good bet—wind damage, and heavy rainfall as the air mass will be tropical w/ PWs up to 2”

The SVR threat may push into W NY and NW PA later on into the late evening hours.

Waiting for 0z WED ETA to check out BUFKIT soundings, and examine hodographs over the region to get a better idea of where the tornado threat is the best.
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#7 Postby weatherfan » Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:41 pm

A huge complex of storms hiting Chicago tonight looking at radar that one of the fatest lines I have seen in quite sometime.
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#8 Postby Pebbles » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:17 pm

weatherfan wrote:A huge complex of storms hiting Chicago tonight looking at radar that one of the fatest lines I have seen in quite sometime.


Knocked over a patio chair and threw a couple of the kids toys across the yard..besides that just made my hubby and me ohh and ahhh at the trees and joke that NCBird musta sent one of the feeder bands from Hurricane Alex up to us as a reminder of what we once use to deal with*snickers*...all's ok here :)

Edit: Found this under storm reports
1045 PM MARINE TSTM WIND CHICAGO 41.88N 87.63W
08/03/2004 56 MPH COOK IL C-MAN STATION

HARRISON CRIB 3 MILES OFFSHORE OF DOWNTOWN CHICAGO
MEASURED A GUST TO 56 KNOTS...64 MPH.
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#9 Postby NWIASpotter » Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:26 pm

Several damage reports came in from my area: the towns of Luverne, Worthington, and other areas along I-90. Several semi's were jackknifed or overturned, mile marker signs were actually bent over, a silo was rolled over the interstate, several trees uprooted, with one landing into a house, going through both levels of the house. Thankfully nobody was reported injured.
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#10 Postby maryanne1960 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:21 am

I live in NW Indiana. I was watchinghat bow echo coming across northern IL last night, and it was one well-defined, fast moving bow...moving forward at speeds to 55 mph. Lake County, IN (and others I am sure) have power lines down all across the county. Haven't seen other damage reports. By the time it reached my county (I was on the southern end of it around 12:30 a.m today) we had wicked CG lightning and 2 inches rain.

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#11 Postby yoda » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:24 am

Hi and welcome MarryAnne!! That must have been an interesting time you had last night!
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#12 Postby Skywatch_NC » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:31 am

This system knocking on our doors tomorrow, Matt!

Eric 8-)
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#13 Postby yoda » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:44 am

Yes Sir Eric!! And I think we may have a chance of tornadoes ouselves tomorrow!! :eek: :eek:
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#14 Postby therock1811 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:42 am

Already have severe weather going now! Warning for Boone County in KY (my home base if you're wondering) expired at 1230, however this is now tracking into Kenton County but no warnings there yet! BTW I'm in Cincinnati right now and we just had a heavy one here!
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#15 Postby yoda » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:55 am

Stay safe Jeremy!! :eek: :D
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#16 Postby therock1811 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:13 pm

Another one tracked RIGHT over Cincinnati as I headed south along I-75...there was heavy rain and winds were EASILY gusting to 50 mph! As I got into Florence, though, it quit. now have sun trying to break through the clouds...it's 3:11pm...solar maximum......NOT good! Temp right now BTW is 74 with DP STILL near 70 with all of this rain!
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#17 Postby ColdFront77 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:28 pm

Jeremy, I thought of you when I saw the active radar on TWC 30 to 60 minutes ago when Hardin county, KY was under a Severe Thunderstorm Warning. I see Shelby county, KY is under one now.
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#18 Postby therock1811 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:31 pm

That's all well south of here Tom...but yeah it was intense...BTW latest storm report says wires were down all over Boone County as of 120pm.
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#19 Postby Skywatch_NC » Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:30 pm

therock1811 wrote:That's all well south of here Tom...but yeah it was intense...BTW latest storm report says wires were down all over Boone County as of 120pm.



08/04/2004 1220 PM

Burlington, Boone County.

Thunderstorm wind damage, reported by law enforcement.

Trees down/several roofs partially off.


08/04/2004 1220 PM

Florence, Boone County.

Thunderstorm wind damage, reported by law enforcement.

Scattered wires down countywide.
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#20 Postby therock1811 » Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:08 pm

Thanks Eric...yeah thats what I saw...BTW I had the time wrong...I wasn't even online at 120pm, I was waiting for dad to pick me up...
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