A Spark maybe...........

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A Spark maybe...........

#1 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:14 pm

Latest IR imagery shows Bonnie wrapping convection around her tiny center. Watch the loop and you'll see a small deep red cluster form on her northern periphery and rotate around her on the western side of her center. Small and pretty lame I know, but it could be the spark indicating a re-intensifying cycle..........

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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Also, check out the Shortwave IR

#2 Postby rockyman » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:32 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

The "nighttime visible"...you can still see that the system has a vigorous circulation.
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#3 Postby Hyperstorm » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:34 pm

Definitely! This system is poised to strengthen quite significantly tomorrow IF UL winds subside (at least temporarily) as forecast. This system might surprise MANY who think it's already done with. I wouldn't be so complacent about it as we have seen much poorer organized storms becoming significant players in the Gulf of Mexico.....Think Alicia, Anita, etc.......

This could become a hurricane easily.....
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#4 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:38 pm

<i>Think Alicia, Anita, etc</i>

Can we please at least be somewhat reasonable. There is 0 chance of a major hurricane coming from Bonnie. Charley has a chance of being a major cane for the GOM, but not Bonnie
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#5 Postby Baytown Bug » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:42 pm

The thing I notice the most about Bonnie is that she seems to have found her favorite spot. She hasn't moved much over the last several hours. If that continues, I'm thinking she might go further east than some people think. The NHC shifted their sweet spot slightly to the west, but I don't see it being the amateur that I am.
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#6 Postby Hyperstorm » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:45 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:<i>Think Alicia, Anita, etc</i>

Can we please at least be somewhat reasonable. There is 0 chance of a major hurricane coming from Bonnie. Charley has a chance of being a major cane for the GOM, but not Bonnie


Hmmm.....You're right. I should have reworded that differently. It looks like it is confusing some already......

What I'm saying is that these SMALL systems tend to go through rapid intensification/weakening periods (yes, such as Anita, Alicia, etc.) and if it can find the favorable winds tomorrow, we will likely have this strengthen quite a bit, possibly more than forecasted by the NHC.

Now, I don't either think that this is becoming a major hurricane. I've said that since the beginning. It's pretty obvious it just doesn't have the perfect conditions for that, but......

The point of this post: A Cat 1 hurricane is still possible while some are declaring it dead......
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#7 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:46 pm

Well the official forecast does have 60kts..so some good convection is no surprise..will it persist is the key..or will we see another naked swirl tomorrow... :wink:
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#8 Postby tallywx » Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:53 pm

Phenomenal. The bugger has some banding around its tiny center within her "lone thunderstorm"...

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES0 ... MrCD18.jpg

Check out the 1 or 2 pixel light dimple with a dark red band N through E through south of the dimple. If you loop it, you can see that this is definitely a "band" around her center. Microscale, but there. Bonnie isn't dead yet.
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#9 Postby Weather4Life23 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:08 pm

tallywx wrote:Phenomenal. The bugger has some banding around its tiny center within her "lone thunderstorm"...

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES0 ... MrCD18.jpg

Check out the 1 or 2 pixel light dimple with a dark red band N through E through south of the dimple. If you loop it, you can see that this is definitely a "band" around her center. Microscale, but there. Bonnie isn't dead yet.


This has got to be the smallest tropical storm I have ever seen since i became a weather enthusiast.
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#10 Postby wayoutfront » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:13 pm

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#11 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:14 pm

Surprising as this may sound, it is quite a bit larger than Cyclone Tracy, an extremely powerful cyclone that flattened Darwin on Christmas of 1974
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#12 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:17 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:Surprising as this may sound, it is quite a bit larger than Cyclone Tracy, an extremely powerful cyclone that flattened Darwin on Christmas of 1974


Geesh..Sounds like a Large tornado..
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#13 Postby Weather4Life23 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:18 pm

Bonnie looks like she is doing what she can in order to survive out there. We cant write her off just yet. Alex was never supposed to become as strong as he did so we cant write Bonnie off until she officially dissipates
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#14 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:43 pm

Does anyone know when the next RECON will investigate Bonnie & Charley?
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#15 Postby Weather4Life23 » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:44 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Does anyone know when the next RECON will investigate Bonnie & Charley?

I think this will answer your question

ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL STORM BONNIE -NO CHANGE
FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO
A. 11/1500,1800,2100Z A. 12/0000,0300,0600Z
B. AFXXX 0802A BONNIE B. AFXXX 0902A BONNIE
C. 11/1100Z C. 11/2200Z
D. 26.5N 90.0W D. 27.4N 89.0W
E. 11/1400Z TO 11/2130Z E. 11/2300Z TO 12/0630Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT. F. SFC TO 10,000FT.

FLIGHT THREE
A. 12/0900,1200,1500Z D. 29.0N 87.0W
B. AFXXX 1002A BONNIE E. 11/0800Z TO 11/1530Z
C. 12/0700Z F. SFC TO 10,000 FT.

2. TROPICAL STORM CHARLEY -FLT ADDED
FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO
A. 12/0000,0600Z A. 12/1200,1800Z
B. AFXXX 0303A CHARLEY B. AFXXX 0403A CHARLEY
C. 11/2030Z C. 12/0800Z
D. 17.0N 78.0W D. 18.3N 80.5W
E. 11/2300Z TO 12/0630Z E. 12/1100Z TO 12/1830Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT. F. SFC TO 10,000 FT.

FLIGHT THREE -ADDED
A. 12/0000Z
B. NOAA9 0503A CHARLEY
C. 12/1730Z
D. N/A
E. N/A
F. 43,000 TO 45,000 FT
3. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK: CONTINUE 6-HOURLY FIXES ON
CHARLEY. PROBABLE G-IV MISSION.
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#16 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:49 pm

Weather4Life23 wrote:Bonnie looks like she is doing what she can in order to survive out there. We cant write her off just yet. Alex was never supposed to become as strong as he did so we cant write Bonnie off until she officially dissipates


Believed or not, I never write off TD #2, I had the hope she would come to life and she did, that's why when the NHC said that the depression had weakened to a tropical wave a left the space of the name in blank in my Tracking Chart. If the depression never regenerated I would just put "TD #2", but because it became "Bonnie" I didn't have to put write out and mess up the chart.
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#17 Postby wayoutfront » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:04 am

weel she doesn't look as stretched out...maybe she has her legs back under

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#18 Postby bahamaswx » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:13 am

Pathetic, really.
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#19 Postby Matthew5 » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:15 am

Cyclone tracey was smaller then Bonnie!
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#20 Postby Anonymous » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:36 am

Do you think AccuWeather.com hurricane experts Dan Kottlowski and Joe Bastardi still think Bonnie's winds will reach 100mph? Or have they lost it? It may be intensifying a little but she's got a lot of work to do to get up to that speed.
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/publ ... .asp?iws=1
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