Will a hurricane ever hit Europe in the future???

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

Will a hurricane ever hit Europe in the future???

#1 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:50 am

okay here's alittle question.

due to global warming the worlds temps would have increased,prehaps by say 4C.

now if a hurricane formed and had favorable conditions ahead of it and became a cat-5.Now much more of the atlantic will have temps over 28C by then so there is more oopertuntiy for it to grow.Now say it hit the Carolinas of which sea temps would quite poissbly have temps of over 28C and the hurricane continued to develop and then wnet back out to sea.It then heads into the colder waters still a cat-5.

Now lets presume that it hits the Azores as a cat-4,and is now weakening but isn't there a chance that it would hit Europe???

Now in that situation today Europe would prehaps get the reamants of it,but notthe actual hurricane.

Now here's my question,if a storm such as the one I describded above were to swing into the Atlantic and head towards Spain in 2100,would it survive the journey??????

(sorry for the longwinded question but it was the only way I could explain it)
0 likes   

Guest

#2 Postby Guest » Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:54 am

it would probably be at least extratropical because the winds are so fast and everything...
0 likes   

Derek Ortt

#3 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:10 pm

it has occurred in the past.

Two ays for it to happen are for it to ride the Gulfstream or to recurve far to the east
0 likes   

User avatar
hial2
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 809
Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:20 pm
Location: Indian trail N.C.

Here's your answer..

#4 Postby hial2 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:10 pm

0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#5 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:22 pm

Often if a hurricane reaches near the British Isles, it is in a region of such cooler waters, that it will lose it's strength. However, perhaps not classified as a "Hurricane" (winds greater than or equal to 74 mph), it can still be a devastating storm and can produce a lot of rain, wind, and perhaps spawn severe storms.


yes that's what happened when Ex-Alex and ex-bonnie came to our shores.
0 likes   

PurdueWx80
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 2720
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:33 pm
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:

#6 Postby PurdueWx80 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:37 pm

Tropical storms have also formed in the Mediterranean. They are rare, but it happens on occasion, especially closer to the African continent where waters are warmer.
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#7 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:42 pm

Yeah infact a tropical storm came fairly close to devloping near Eygpt last year with only a very dominat high nearby stopping it from forming but if it had formed I'm certain it could have been the first mediterrean hurricane.
0 likes   

Anonymous

#8 Postby Anonymous » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:47 pm

WOW--you make this post about global warming when a couple days ago we were talking about the Gulf stream stopping and an Ice age beginning lol--I dunno--there are valid arguments on both sides so which will it be hotter or colder??

Anyway, as far as Europe being hit, Stranger things have happenned--things just have to happen just right for Europe to be hit by a pure tropical cyclone... They hit Canada and the Azores and remain intact through cold SSTs... Heck last year, we had a purely tropical cyclone develop in April when temps were WAY below the threshold... And lets not forget hurricane Catalina (or some name like that) that hit this year in Brazille, South America---No hurricane organization even covers such storms... So IMHO, it could happen weather as has a mind of its own-No rules apply.
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#9 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:09 pm

Heck there have also been such storms in the med,see here about the 1995 mediterranean hurricane!

http://www.mindspring.com/~jbeven/intr0008.htm
0 likes   

Matthew5

#10 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:10 pm

0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#11 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:27 pm

that's really cool,the Med's first possible hurricane!!!!

here's an image of it,sure as hell looks like a hurricane to me!!!

Image
0 likes   

Anonymous

#12 Postby Anonymous » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:49 pm

That looks like a hurricane to me as does this....

Image

The NHC or JTWC needs to take charge of the south Atlantic.... Issue advisories when need be--- This may have been a rarity but it is a sign that the climate is changing and there my be more of these storms
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#13 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:53 pm

I agree.

With winds reaching 84mph,then these storms should indeed be named,even if they are only a 1 in 20 year event,they will get more common thanks to global warming.
Last edited by KWT on Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#14 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:55 pm

here's the storm that nearly formed in 2003:

On 17 September 2003 another small cyclonic circulation emerged off the coast of Tunisia. Later that day deep convection had developed around the centre. With sea surface temperatures of near 27°C, the system could be considered to be a tropical depression or storm, although information is not available about the inner core structure. By 18 September the low level circulation had become fully exposed as convection developed to the north of the centre. This brought heavy rain to the island of Sicily with a report of 514mm of rain in 48 hours at Syracuse.
0 likes   

Matthew5

#15 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:57 pm

Kwt Link to that report?
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#16 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:02 pm

It's the same link you gave me:

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2c ... ages/Misc/

under the med part,also has a few pics of the 1995 storm.
0 likes   

Matthew5

#17 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:06 pm

Looks like a tropical depression to me?

Maybe we should keep a close eye on the Med.
0 likes   

User avatar
KWT
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 31415
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:02 am
Location: UK!!!

#18 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:09 pm

Yeah I thought that as well(well actually I thought it was a tropical storm but now looking at it your probably right!!!)

and with the heat of last year I wouldn't be suprised in the future if we get more of these mini hurricane and topical storms/deprssions.
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], kevin and 8 guests