TWC - pay attention please!

[dhweather]

I was watching TWC for a minute, Dr. Lyons has the magic drawing pen out, and tries to portray Frances turning North:

It's moving just like this - draw

Then the satellite loop comes along following his line, except the last 2 frames are headed WEST of his line.

Pay attention to what you draw man!

[Anonymous]

Lyons is on crack...LOL!

[bigmike]

No offense but he is probably more qualified to talk about hurricanes than anyone on this board so he must know something.

[Bane]

No disagreement here, Mike. He did say that it appears to have jogged back wnw over the last few frames. Let's not give him any creidt for that, though.

[hurricane_lover]

Why are you guys -removed- for Florida? I just don't get it. Its almos tlike you are hoping it hits here. This thing is a Carolina Hurricane and you folks need to take precautions NOW! This is serious and potentially one of the most disastrous Canes ever.

[WeatherNLU]

I don't disagree that he may well be more qualified to talk hurricanes than anyone on this board, but he does make himself seem like he knows nothing on TV. One of two things.......

1) He doesn't know as much as we think.

2) He should never have been allowed on TV.

Just my .02

[caneman]

Why are you guys -removed- for Florida? I just don't get it. Its almos tlike you are hoping it hits here. This thing is a Carolina Hurricane and you folks need to take precautions NOW! This is serious and potentially one of the most disastrous Canes ever.

No one is -removed- it to Florida. Learn to read the loops and see the weather patterns.

[quickychick]

No one is -removed- it to Florida. Learn to read the loops and see the weather patterns.

That would mean he'd have to put down the crack pipe and learn a new turn of phrase.

[Cookiely]

I wish we had Roy Leep (local Tampa Met who retired). I always felt safe as a child with Roy at the helm. Who's your favorite Met?

[paulvogel]

A huge clockwise turn making it a fish above 27 north.


Not gonna happen tho.......

[hurricane_lover]

are you serious, quickychick. Im trying to help you people.....

[caneman]

I wish we had Roy Leep (local Tampa Met who retired). I always felt safe as a child with Roy at the helm. Who's your favorite Met?

I know you didn't ask me but that new guy on Channel 13 really seems to know his stuff.

[rtd2]

qoute " No one is -removed- it to Florida. Learn to read the loops and see the weather patterns."





AMEN! WELL SAID! I LIKE LYONS BUT HE'S ANOTHER MOUTH PIECE FOR THE NHC....MOST ALL LOCAL METS AND TWC METS ARE....can anyone recall a twc met going AGAINST nws or nhc's forcast? ?????? Most local mets wont either! of course theres always a rebel!

[quickychick]

are you serious, quickychick. Im trying to help you people.....

Quite.

hurricane_lover: "Trust me (ad nauseum)"
quickychick: "My mama always told me...never trust a man who says, 'Trust me.' "


As for Steve Lyons...bald men are kinda hot.

-qc

[seahawkjd]

TWC stopped going against the NHC when John Hope died. I really really really wish he was still around. He was the one that I always felt confident in as far as forcasts. It was a sad day when he passed.

[cctx]

What always annoys me the most is when they are showing the direction and they always, always put their big fat arms right over the area that it headed to so I can't see what the true movement is. I think they do it so people will belive what they say and not what they see with their own eyes. Ok rant over --- I feel better

[dhweather]

MY point here people, the magic telestrator isn't
a draw once and can't correct device.

He has a ntional audience grasping for his every word, graphic, etc. If he draw it NW, people
will believe it is going NW no matter what he says.

Thus my point, pay attention, redraw the line, that takes all of 2 seconds?

[dhweather]

TWC stopped going against the NHC when John Hope died. I really really really wish he was still around. He was the one that I always felt confident in as far as forcasts. It was a sad day when he passed.

John Hope was a great man with enprecedented experience with tropical weather. He is missed.

[wlfpack81]

No offense hurricane_lover but you keep saying the same things over and over. What are your reasons for thinking this thing is going into NC other than -removed- yourself? Not saying it can't go further north but the ridge is building in and at the moment a FL strike seems more likely than a NC strike. I could see a SC strike but NC at the moments seems the most unlikely though not totally out of the question

[borderPatrol2329]

While I am no meteorologist, I think I may understand why there is such divergence and waffling in the models. The High Pressure area that was expected to slide eastward and create a solid ridge actually began to weaken and slide to the North East. This caused the Ridge to buckle (I wouldn't go as far as calling it a trough) about 500 miles due East of Jacksonville on a parabollic line to about the SC/NC border. This buckle would draw up Frances like a magnet as she crossed the bahamas, however.... another High Pressure area formed over the upper plains began to strengthen and slowly slide to the South East. The buckle in the Ridge is showing signs of slowly atraightening out. So there lies the problem. If the buckle remains, it may draw Frances up towards the SC/NC border. If it continues to fill in, it pushes Frances's landfall further and further South. If it fills in completely, Frances hits SE FLA. If it expands, it could even force here into the upper Keys. Timing will be crucial, however, the stroger Frances becomes, the less of an impact the buckle in the ridge will play as the forward inertia will have a dampening effect on the pull from the buckle in the ridge..