The GFDL Shift way to the East of the Previous run.

[Wnghs2007]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

[mobilebay]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

[Wnghs2007]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

The storm is stalling again for one thing. And it has been moving WNW not WSW or West. The Nhc says so. Also the GFDL was showing it almost clipping texas and into Oklahoma and Arkansas. This is definatley much further east. And i never said GFS? Who said that. I said GFDL. Get it straight.

[rtd2]

stalling???What? dont think so!

[Wnghs2007]

stalling???What? dont think so!

Actually in the short term it is. The Radar proves that. It has been sitting constant over the last hour or two without much movement at all. You can bet I would not be telling you this if it was not true.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kmlb.shtml

[Stormcenter]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

The storm is stalling again for one thing. And it has been moving WNW not WSW or West. The Nhc says so. Also the GFDL was showing it almost clipping texas and into Oklahoma and Arkansas. This is definatley much further east. And i never said GFS? Who said that. I said GFDL. Get it straight.

Yeah look at her move wnw and stall. HUH?!?!?!?

http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/je ... /anis.html

Anyway I'm NOT a model lover so I don't put too much weight on what they predict, sorry.

[Wnghs2007]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

The storm is stalling again for one thing. And it has been moving WNW not WSW or West. The Nhc says so. Also the GFDL was showing it almost clipping texas and into Oklahoma and Arkansas. This is definatley much further east. And i never said GFS? Who said that. I said GFDL. Get it straight.

Yeah look at her move wnw and stall. HUH?!?!?!?

http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/je ... /anis.html

Anyway I'm NOT a model lover so I don't put too much weight on what they predict, sorry.

Yep she is moving WNW at 280 degrees. Your looking at the overal Eye not the center. Which is embeded and which you cant see on that radar. Or on many as a matter of fact. And if that one looks like it is still moving. It is because the EYE is NOT Fully closed. And there was just a blob sticking out into its center to make the storm look like it is moving wnw. Anywho if you want to know for sure. Just measure the outside of the hurricane rain cdo. And it has not moved much during those whole frame. Thanks.

[Stormcenter]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

The storm is stalling again for one thing. And it has been moving WNW not WSW or West. The Nhc says so. Also the GFDL was showing it almost clipping texas and into Oklahoma and Arkansas. This is definatley much further east. And i never said GFS? Who said that. I said GFDL. Get it straight.

Yeah look at her move wnw and stall. HUH?!?!?!?

http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/je ... /anis.html

Anyway I'm NOT a model lover so I don't put too much weight on what they predict, sorry.

Yep she is moving WNW at 280 degrees. Your looking at the overal Eye not the center. Which is embeded and which you cant see on that radar. Or on many as a matter of fact. And if that one looks like it is still moving. It is because the EYE is NOT Fully closed. And there was just a blob sticking out into its center to make the storm look like it is moving wnw. Anywho if you want to know for sure. Just measure the outside of the hurricane rain cdo. And it has not moved much during those whole frame. Thanks.

I'm sorry but I disagree and I'll leave at that.

[rtd2]

shes moved 8-10 miles since this topic started!

[Wnghs2007]

Just west of the Alabama/ Mississippi line.




All models shifting east at this point With heading its currently on. I expect a very sharp turn once it gets into the gulf. From 280 angle like it is now to almost 325. Looks like the NHC is a GFDL hugger again. No Doubt.

Not true. The GFS is a little further left on the 00Z run than the 18Z. Will probably shift even more left on the 06Z due to current movement. The GFS is over estimating this trough, and under estimating the Ampliflying
HIgh. (as it has done most of this cane). also the NOGAPS has a very simular track as the GFDL.

The storm is stalling again for one thing. And it has been moving WNW not WSW or West. The Nhc says so. Also the GFDL was showing it almost clipping texas and into Oklahoma and Arkansas. This is definatley much further east. And i never said GFS? Who said that. I said GFDL. Get it straight.

Yeah look at her move wnw and stall. HUH?!?!?!?

http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/je ... /anis.html

Anyway I'm NOT a model lover so I don't put too much weight on what they predict, sorry.

Yep she is moving WNW at 280 degrees. Your looking at the overal Eye not the center. Which is embeded and which you cant see on that radar. Or on many as a matter of fact. And if that one looks like it is still moving. It is because the EYE is NOT Fully closed. And there was just a blob sticking out into its center to make the storm look like it is moving wnw. Anywho if you want to know for sure. Just measure the outside of the hurricane rain cdo. And it has not moved much during those whole frame. Thanks.

I'm sorry but I disagree and I'll leave at that.

Well that is what is good about this country. You can have differing opions and still get along. I also accept where you are standing but also would have to disagree. But thanks for the chat.

[Wnghs2007]

shes moved 8-10 miles since this topic started!

Actually the eye is falling apart now so you cant really tell. And also if it has moved anywhere it was to the NW. But not by any 10 miles. or maybe so. I dont have a scale on my radar. But it looks awfully close to where it was an 1 1/2 ago.

[rtd2]

heck I'm so sleepy I think i see an EWR going on....I respect your opinion....thanks and good night!

[Wnghs2007]

heck I'm so sleepy I think i see an EWR going on....I respect your opinion....thanks and good night!

Good Night Rtd2. Thanks for the Chat. Hope you have a great nights rest and see you in the morning.

[CaluWxBill]

well the only official way to determine movement is through minimum pressure determinations, to me the eye is fairly ragged, so determining exact movement is difficult, but I definitely think it still has a westerly component, maybe WNW at about 7 mph.

[Wnghs2007]

well the only official way to determine movement is through minimum pressure determinations, to me the eye is fairly ragged, so determining exact movement is difficult, but I definitely think it still has a westerly component, maybe WNW at about 7 mph.

The western edge of convective rain on the radar has not had any movement for the past hour to hour and a half. The eye is so ragged right now but you can tell the general vicintity and you can tell that it is not moving west. Unless the LLC is not in the eye but out in the convectinve sheild.

[CaluWxBill]

To me the center of circulation has moved 15 to 20 miles in the last 2 hours

[Wnghs2007]

well the only official way to determine movement is through minimum pressure determinations, to me the eye is fairly ragged, so determining exact movement is difficult, but I definitely think it still has a westerly component, maybe WNW at about 7 mph.

The western edge of convective rain on the radar has not had any movement for the past hour to hour and a half. The eye is so ragged right now but you can tell the general vicintity and you can tell that it is not moving west. Unless the LLC is not in the eye but out in the convectinve sheild.

It looks like it is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY Slowly starting to drift WNW at 290-300 degrees at the moment. But it is still very slow.

[pbobbyp]

I really dont want this thing to head north i would prefer for it to go to all the people I disagree with in mississippi and alabama and even farther west. I rather enjoy my home and i prefer having eletricity to my happy home...... GO AWAY FRANCES GEORGIA RESPECTS YOUR STRENGTH AND WISHES YOU LUCK WITH THE OTHER STATES THAT REALLY WANTS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CaluWxBill]

I really dont want this thing to head north i would prefer for it to go to all the people I disagree with in mississippi and alabama and even farther west. I rather enjoy my home and i prefer having eletricity to my happy home...... GO AWAY FRANCES GEORGIA RESPECTS YOUR STRENGTH AND WISHES YOU LUCK WITH THE OTHER STATES THAT REALLY WANTS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are in Savannah? You have no need to worry. Keep an eye on Ivan.

[pbobbyp]

Savannah has nothing to worry about when it comes to hurricanes we are set too far inland for a hurricane to hit us. they alway get carolina or florida.