EXPEXT SHIFT TO THE RIGHT.

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EXPEXT SHIFT TO THE RIGHT.

#1 Postby Windfall » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:06 am

THIS A QUOTE FROM ORTT'S FORECAST...
"The previous track forecasts have suggested this motion, therefore this track will be right on top of the previous one, however if Ivan does speed up some, this track forecast may be shifted left, while if Ivan slows down substantially this track may be shifted to the right."

IVAN IS SLOWING DOWN, NOW FROM 10 TO 8 MPH.
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#2 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:07 am

O.K. YOU HAVE A REPLY...YOU DON'T NEED TO RE-POST!
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#3 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:08 am

I don't think so. If anything, the track will continue shifting west.
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#4 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:11 am

Ivan's speed in the last 12 hours:

11pm to 2am: 27.2 miles | 2am to 5am: 46.7 miles | 5am to 8am: 29.7 miles | 8am to 11am: 24.1 miles --- 12 hour average: 10.64 mph


The storm has moved more northerly in the last 12 to 24 hours.


It makes sense that a forecast track to the right of the latest one would be further east in response to the trough moving in/drier air in the western and central Gulf of Mexico.

It looks to me that the ULL to Ivan's northeast caused the short-lived (but not entirely uncommon without a ULL located there) WSW movement we saw yesterday.
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Re: EXPEXT SHIFT TO THE RIGHT.

#5 Postby Anonymous » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:13 am

Windfall wrote:THIS A QUOTE FROM ORTT'S FORECAST...
"The previous track forecasts have suggested this motion, therefore this track will be right on top of the previous one, however if Ivan does speed up some, this track forecast may be shifted left, while if Ivan slows down substantially this track may be shifted to the right."

IVAN IS SLOWING DOWN, NOW FROM 10 TO 8 MPH.


I agree as there is even indications it may crawl or even stall and allow the trough to pick Ivan up and turn it north-northeast towards the peninsula...
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#6 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:14 am

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#7 Postby chris_fit » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:16 am

I will comment on this later when I make my forecast for today.... but you are correct it will shift to the right, not at 5pm... but at 11pm for sure. You can read my forecast form yesterday here...

http://www.aboutmylife.net/users/chris_fit
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#8 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:16 am

Jekyhe32210 wrote:I agree as there is even indications it may crawl or even stall and allow the trough to pick Ivan up and turn it north-northeast towards the peninsula...

That goes to show the reason for that forecast models and the NHC official forecast track were indicating a Florida peninsula, then west-central Florida landfall during the course of the week.

Those in the forecast cone should prepare now and with every hurricane threat.
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#9 Postby ColdFront77 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:20 am

charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:There is a turn once inland now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/111453W5.gif

The turn in the latest official NHC forecast track issued in the last 30 to 45 minutes isn't a shift (back) to the right.

As Chris said above it should take place if not in the next forecast path update at 5 pm Eastern, then 11 pm Eastern... if not both.
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#10 Postby B-Bear » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:22 am

Yes, the multiple posts regarding the same subject matter (Ivan's track) serve only to clutter the board, and we don't need that right now. Could we make an effort to consolidate our posts about the same subject in one post?
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#11 Postby charleston_hugo_veteran » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:22 am

ColdFront77 wrote:
charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:There is a turn once inland now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/111453W5.gif

The turn in the latest official NHC forecast track issued in the last 30 to 45 minutes isn't a shift (back) to the right.

As Chris said above it should take place if not in the next forecast path update at 5 pm Eastern, then 11 pm Eastern... if not both.


I noticed the path was straight, once inland, on the last track it is now to the right??
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#12 Postby chris_fit » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:24 am

I love how at 8am on tues they have a shift in the track...
NNW to NNE....

lol
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#13 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:28 am

charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:
ColdFront77 wrote:
charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:There is a turn once inland now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/111453W5.gif

The turn in the latest official NHC forecast track issued in the last 30 to 45 minutes isn't a shift (back) to the right.

As Chris said above it should take place if not in the next forecast path update at 5 pm Eastern, then 11 pm Eastern... if not both.


I noticed the path was straight, once inland, on the last track it is now to the right??


A little. It still goes along a line from SW Georgia to Western NC from 96-120 hours. Before that though, it's a little to the left.
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Re: EXPEXT SHIFT TO THE RIGHT.

#14 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:37 am

Jekyhe32210 wrote:
Windfall wrote:THIS A QUOTE FROM ORTT'S FORECAST...
"The previous track forecasts have suggested this motion, therefore this track will be right on top of the previous one, however if Ivan does speed up some, this track forecast may be shifted left, while if Ivan slows down substantially this track may be shifted to the right."

IVAN IS SLOWING DOWN, NOW FROM 10 TO 8 MPH.


I agree as there is even indications it may crawl or even stall and allow the trough to pick Ivan up and turn it north-northeast towards the peninsula...


Based on "Derek's" forecast there is still HOPE for your for your direct hit Windfall :lol:
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#15 Postby FloridaDiver » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:37 am

charleston_hugo_veteran wrote:There is a turn once inland now.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/111453W5.gif


The turn you mention on the 11:00am Advisory track I feel is way to north, the digging through will be parallel to that forecasted turn, I feel a turn to the NNE will be much earlier in the track, how early will depend on how fast Ivan exits Cuba, I’m not buying the Panhandle strike just yet.
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#16 Postby Josephine96 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:34 pm

I'm still not buying the panhandle business either.. It's way too early
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#17 Postby Josephine96 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:37 pm

So the probability of a peninsula landfall is still pretty high?
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#18 Postby chris_fit » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:38 pm

Josephine96 wrote:So the probability of a peninsula landfall is still pretty high?


I think so.
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#19 Postby Josephine96 » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:40 pm

Me too.. I think it'll be somewhere between Tampa and Cedar Key or so but probably south of Cedar and affecting Central Fla greatly..

Not a wishcast.. just an observation
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#20 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:41 pm

Josephine96 wrote:So the probability of a peninsula landfall is still pretty high?


No. But then again, the probability of a Panhandle hit isn't high either, but it's gradually increasing. I seriously don't see this hitting from Tampa south.
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