New recon. Highlights .. 950 mb. Open SE.

ColinD · #1 Postby **ColinD** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:31 pm

URNT12 KNHC 252019
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 25/1956Z
B. 26 DEG 51 MIN N
78 DEG 36 MIN W
C. NA
D. NA
E. NA DEG NM
F. 318 DEG 98 KT
G. 224 DEG 22 NM
H. EXTRAP 950 MB
I. 19 C/ 1632 M
J. 21 C/ 1943 M
K. 18 C/ NA
L. OPEN SE
M. ELIP 10-50-40
N. 12345/NA
0. 1/ 1 NM
P. NOAA2 WXWXA JEANNE OB 01
MAX FLT WND 98 KTS NW QUAD 1951Z, SLP EXTRAPOLATED FORM 5,000FT
RADAR ALT

WeatherNLU · #2 Postby **WeatherNLU** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:32 pm

26/51' is 26.9N. That's interesting.

djtexillini · #3 Postby **djtexillini** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:33 pm

Good to see winds arent responding yet. Still time though....5pm is kept at 115mph.

#4 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:36 pm

The intermediate advisories have estimated the position. Comparing the last vortex to this one, Jeanne has moved due west, w/ no north or south component whatsoever.

ColinD · #5 Postby **ColinD** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:38 pm

PurdueWx80 wrote:The intermediate advisories have estimated the position. Comparing the last vortex to this one, Jeanne has moved due west, w/ no north or south component whatsoever.

Yeah.

Scorpion · #6 Postby **Scorpion** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:43 pm

We arent sure about that yet. Recon hasnt sampled the area with the highest winds yet. They may very well be higher.

Foladar · #7 Postby **Foladar** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:45 pm

It has gone north of due west if it's now .1N higher, or even .2N higher than this recon - its now at 27.1N compared to this 26.9N recon

#8 Postby **PurdueWx80** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:47 pm

The advisory was written before the recon reported this new location. It is still at 29.85N.

EDIT: Actually I mean 192.85N. Just kidding...not near enough sleep last night. Thanks for catching that! 26.85 is correct.

Scorpion · #9 Postby **Scorpion** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:49 pm

You mean 26.85

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#10 Postby **fci** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:50 pm

PurdueWx80 wrote:The advisory was written before the recon reported this new location. It is still at 29.85N.

29.85??

ColinD · #11 Postby **ColinD** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:52 pm

djtexillini wrote:Good to see winds arent responding yet. Still time though....5pm is kept at 115mph.

"Initial intensity is kept at 100 knots but may need to be updated when a
new data from a reconnaissance plane become available." - 5pm discussion

Foladar · #12 Postby **Foladar** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:55 pm

how so, the 5PM advisory is a 5Pm advisory when this is 3:54..so the 5pm advisory would be updated with the location

djtexillini · #13 Postby **djtexillini** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:57 pm

Yes..its possible they will find stronger elsewhere...although the NW quad could be the strongest. If we dont hear anything in a few from a new vortex or supp...we can assume the strongest they found were in the NW.

Scorpion · #14 Postby **Scorpion** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:00 pm

But that wouldnt make sense, since the max FL winds before were 113 and now 94? With a pressure drop?? Dont think so.

djtexillini · #15 Postby **djtexillini** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:03 pm

There isnt a 1.0 to 1.0 correlation between pressure and wind speed. Every storm is different and this one has been pretty consistently lower with wind speeds than pressure would indicate. I think it has to do with the inability to close off an eyewall for any long period of time.

New recon. Highlights .. 950 mb. Open SE.

New recon. Highlights .. 950 mb. Open SE.

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