A better way to pay taxes?

[azsnowman]

Sitting here this a.m. doing our estimated taxes for the next quarter and beginning to burn up over at how much we have to pay got me thinking about something, there IS a better way to pay taxes, a *Flat Rate, across the board tax* Put a 10% across the board tax on EVERYTHING you purchase, with the exception of food of course, this would apply to every single purchase you make. This would force the *illegals* entering into this country to pay taxes and help support the country that they want to live in. This would also force those who are *tax exempt* (the 7 digit figure ppl, ya know, even the OIL companies would have to pay!) to pay also. Native Americans who pay no state sales tax would have to pay!

Dennis

[j]

I agree 1000% with you on this one. I'm all for paying my fair share, and like you said, this is the absolute fairest way to go. As a Republican, I support fairness to all...and that means taking the totally unfair burden that the wealthy carry on their shoulders and distributing it to the masses. The bottom line is the rich will still pay more in taxes this way because they spend more! It's not rocket science.

edit....and one more thing...lets not ever forget WHO pays our salaries. It's not the poor people...its the rich people. I'm all for enabling them to invest more money back into their businesses then paying it to the government! You want job creation??? take the noose off the businessman's neck.

[azsnowman]

AMEN J, being a business owner myself, I can testify to the NOOSE around my neck! I mean come on, I'm a blue collar working stiff, making a decent living, I want for nothing......and yet, "Shut up Dennis, you'll be banned from here LOL!"

Dennis

[mf_dolphin]

Speak on Brother Snowman! No banning here for telling the truth! I'll add the rediculous cost of healthcare in this country to the rant!

[streetsoldier]

What you don't know is that most of the "illegals" are paid in CASH, rather than by check (which is recorded in balance sheets at the employer's banks)...which places the burden of declaring their income solely on them (and allows them to escape taxation, because they do not know they HAVE to).

[azsnowman]

That's exactly right Bill, how do business owners get away with this practice???? It's called *Contract Labor*......the business owner *sub contracts* labor out, pays cash for this service, gets a tax break for this, it's called operating expenses, then the burden, as Bill said, is layed up the laborer, which 99.9% of them DO NOT pay taxes!

Dennis

[j]

careful streetsoldier....you get on the illegal ims too much, and the next thing you know you have the bleeding hearts all over your sore butt. You know the story.....we NEED them to do the jobs Americans won't do..etc...etc...


I'm going to go off on a tangent here (no way..that's allowed???)...and talk about dirty disgusting jobs that nobody wants to do, and what to do about them.

First off....the Mexicans. I really don't have a problem with them working over here in the USA, God knows life sucks for them over there in Mexico..but lets make it legal. Tax them just like every other American. The jobs they hold, will be jobs that they are qualified to do, just like every other American. If the best they can do is pick peaches well so be it. But lets tax them for God's sake! The thing to remember about the Illegal's is that even the worst of living conditions in this country (which is where they might be at minimum wage and paying their fair share), is better than they could have it back "home".

Now......let's deal with the most disgusting, low down, nobody wants to do them jobs (not even the illegal aliens). These are jobs that are not getting done now...but they CAN get done very simply by MAKING any scum in our Prison System, serving anything greater than a 6 month sentence a job to do every day they are incarcerated. We don't need to pay them....they need to pay US, and sitting around in these condo's they call prison cells is not working! They are a source we need to tap. Imagine if every would be rapist, murderer, thief, child molester, wife beater, etc.. knew up front that their punishment for the crime they were about to commit, was hard labor each and every day of their sentence? No TV's...no recreation (they get their exercise working!)...no sex on the weekends...they can take care of that on their own time!

Any suggestions for jobs that our inmates could do for us????

[Stephanie]

edit....and one more thing...lets not ever forget WHO pays our salaries. It's not the poor people...its the rich people. I'm all for enabling them to invest more money back into their businesses then paying it to the government! You want job creation??? take the noose off the businessman's neck.

That comment almost makes me feel like we're getting a stipend or "entitlement". I'd like to view it as the companies that are paying our wages.

I'm all for giving a tax break for entrepreneurs like Dennis for health insurance. They can't afford decent health insurance for themselves and yet they are only able to deduct the cost of it from their taxes after the cost EXCEEDS 7.5% of their AGI (I believe that's the %).

I also agree that the people in prison should be "earning" their keep as well and doing more than just picking trash off the side of the highway. The illegal aliens as well should be taxed, though if they're illegal, then they shouldn't be here in the first place :?

[wx247]

I agree. Woah...did I just say that! These illegal immigrants should have to pay the taxes just like we are.

[Stephanie]

I agree. Woah...did I just say that! These illegal immigrants should have to pay the taxes just like we are.

QUICK! Write this down, date & time!!!

[mf_dolphin]

It's a sad state of affairs when prisoners have a better lifestyle in prison than out of prison. Ross Perot would be a great choice to run the national prison system! He would have it turning a profit in no time!

As far as the illegals, it's the business's that employ them that ctreate the demand. These people should be punished hard when they're caught.

[azsnowman]

Well, let's see....prisoner jobs??? Hmmm, you want to see a REAL Sheriff in action, go to Maricopa County in Az, you will find Sheriff Joe Aarpiao, the BEST, most HATED sheriff in the lower 48, ANYWHERE as far as that goes. I'm sure you've heard of him, he has re enstated the *chain gang* for road side clean up, makes 'em wear *pink undies* in case they try to escape, has cut out ALL tv with the exception of the news, no smokes, meals that are just barely fit to eat, no comdiments for the meals (ketchup, mustard etc), meals consist of bologna, white bread and crackers, no sodas, just water, no magazines of any sorts, he banned all sexual material inside (Playboys etc), to deal with overcrowding, he has set up *Tent City* old military issued tents for sleeping outside. The guy is my HERO, he treats prisoners like they SHOULD be treated, no thrills, no frills lock up!

NOW, the jobs, let's see, road side clean up, thinning the forest, road side weed control (weed eating)

Dennis

[j]

It's a sad state of affairs when prisoners have a better lifestyle in prison than out of prison. Ross Perot would be a great choice to run the national prison system! He would have it turning a profit in no time!

As far as the illegals, it's the business's that employ them that ctreate the demand. These people should be punished hard when they're caught.

Agreed.....the Businesses are at fault w/o a doubt.

[j]

az....yes I've heard of this man...somebody did an expose on him. I love his style.

[mf_dolphin]

That Sherriff is a real American hero! Prison should be something to be avoided! I wish more law enforcement officials had the brass b_lls to do what he's done in Arizona!

[pojo]

Dennis...can you send him up to Wisconsin...I'm sure we can find a way to accomodate him!