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Food for thought

#1 Postby Anonymous » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:30 am

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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:35 am

That track looks pretty good if you ask me.
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#3 Postby Anonymous » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:39 am

Yea. While I certainly don't expect 150 mph, I am concerned given that this could be a hurricane in the Bahamas, and the waters off the Gulf Stream are boiling.
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Re: Food for thought

#4 Postby sma10 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:42 am

~Floydbuster wrote:Image


Mike,

That 1949 storm is actually a pretty famous one down in South Florida.
I believe it made landfall near Boca Raton as a category 4. Naturally, back in '49 that area was not nearly as populated as it is now.

Boy, what a terrible track that would be today at that strength. If it struck at that angle it would actually rake FLL and West Palm. Depending on size it could potentially give Miami a heckuva blow, too.
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#5 Postby HurricaneJoe22 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:03 am

That's pretty close to worst-case scenario for SE coast.
100+ billion in damage I would think.
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#6 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:15 am

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That would not be a good track, but doubt it will happen with TD 10 b/c of shear and my good friend Sal.
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#7 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:25 am

What SAL???? I don't see any near this storm. All that is stoping it is southwestly shear.

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#8 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:29 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:What SAL???? I don't see any near this storm. All that is stoping it is southwestly shear.

:roll:


If you look at the latest SAL 5-day loops you can see a fresh new batch of SAL that just came off of Africa. Of course that has a chance of not making it to TD 10 but if TD 10 doesn't speed up the SAL will kill it in about three-five days.
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#9 Postby perk » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:01 am

TD#10 is moving into an area of abundant moisure.I see no SAL hindering it.
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#10 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:37 am

The WV loop reveals a stationary ULL just west of the low center, so, this will certainly slow any development at this time.

Click on http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html to view.

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#11 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:41 am

yeah its not SAL inhibiting development of this thing but rather upper level shear. There is a weak upper low just north of the islands creating some shear for it. but again the NHC keeps saying that conditions could become more favorable within a couple days or so.

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#12 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:47 am

Yes, true, and hopefully all here accept the fact that the low can't run through the ULL - it'll either go around it to the north or dissipate it.

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#13 Postby recmod » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:51 am

HurricaneJoe22 wrote:That's pretty close to worst-case scenario for SE coast.
100+ billion in damage I would think.


Ummm.....isn't this just about the exact trajectory that both Frances and Jeanne took into FLorida last year? I believe a worst case scenario for SE FL would be a landfall a bit farther south.

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#14 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:54 am

Except that Frances and Jeanne were not weak low-level swirls at this point - much different situation today.

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#15 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:58 am

and Frances and Jeanne were not that monster Cat 4 at landfall that that 1949 hurricane was. Either way it would cause a crap load of damage.

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#16 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:03 am

Remember Andrew didn't get going until just a little E of the Bahamas and turned into a monster CAT 5. Once TD 10 is under the influence of the Bermuda ridge in a couple of days it could get going. :eek:
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#17 Postby boca » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:12 am

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/newpage/cgi ... &name=Area\sForecast\sDiscussion

according to NWS Miami the trough will dig in along the East coast and shunt the high southward and if that happens TD10 won't get any farther west than the central Bahamas.
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#18 Postby Frank2 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:19 am

Yes, that's been the thinking for several days, and is why, even with other factors in favor, all it takes is one sharp trough to make a big difference.

Looking at the temp forecast map last evening, there will have a major cool-down in the northeast and mid-Atlanitc states by Friday and Saturday (highs only in the 60s and 70s in the northeast), so, that shows the strength of this trough.

Many are getting excited by the possibilities for former TD10, but, with the trough in place will probably be another recurving system.

Frank
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#19 Postby Anonymous » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:24 am

Frank2 wrote:Yes, that's been the thinking for several days, and is why, even with other factors in favor, all it takes is one sharp trough to make a big difference.

Looking at the temp forecast map last evening, there will have a major cool-down in the northeast and mid-Atlanitc states by Friday and Saturday (highs only in the 60s and 70s in the northeast), so, that shows the strength of this trough.

Many are getting excited by the possibilities for former TD10, but, with the trough in place will probably be another recurving system.

Frank


Well...very well may be the case. But...is the system south of Bermuda in 5-6 days when it gets picked up like Irene? NO. The system may be near the Bahamas or even hitting Florida. Or...does the trough even get it? I am very concerned about Florida. Especially since models make this an 80 mph hurricane before it even gets over the boiling Bahamas.
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#20 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:33 am

wxmann_91 wrote::eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That would not be a good track, but doubt it will happen with TD 10 b/c of shear and my good friend Sal.


SAL? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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