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I Don't Claim 2 B A Psychic But..

#1 Postby canegrl04 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:59 pm

I have been getting this strong feeling of dread the past couple of days that the other shoe is going to drop,so to speak,in the form of another natural disaster,or terrorist attack before the end of the year.

In July,I got the same feeling one night that something horrible was going to happen in the near future :(

Anyone else think something else is going to happen?
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#2 Postby Stephanie » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:26 pm

I do believe that some people are "extra sensitive" and can sense things that may occur. I know I've gotten "antsy" or aggitated sometimes for no particular reason other than the fact that I felt "something" was going on or was going to occur. Sometimes I was right, other times it probably was anxiety/stress, which seems to be something that's affecting me more lately.

I know that on 9/11, I didn't have any "strange" feelings of dread. I remember noticing that it was a beautiful morning and wishing that I was able to stay at home to be able to take advantage of it.

I think that alot of us over the past few years have had a feeling of dread ever since 9/11. We're nearing that 4 year anniversary, so subconsciously, you may be feeling the affects of that. Stress can make you have these feelings as well. I do hope that you are wrong about another tragedy occurring - we've certainly had our share around the world recently!
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#3 Postby Miss Mary » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:15 pm

The only time I felt this was just after 9/11. For days, thinking something big is coming, next. Thankfully it didn't.

Like you Stephanie, 9/11 here in Cincinnati was picture postcard weather. Bright blue skies, white clouds, such clear sunshine. No humidity, low 70s. A day when you just want to have a picnic or go for a walk. Not have the world fall apart.

I also remember walking out on my deck that evening, looking up to the skies and not seeing one single plane (planes come in on a flight pattern, towards CVG, miles above our house, but some nights, it's one every 2 or 3 minutes it seems like). That night, of course, as you know - so quiet.

I did have deep worry the night before we attacked Saddam/Iraq. My niece's nephew had been sent over and he was poised with his troop, waiting for word the attack had started. My youngest daughter had an activity after dinner. When we were coming back home around 7 or 7:30, there was the most beautiful rainbow I've ever seen. I had to pull over. We saw it immediately as we turned down our street, we're 5 houses down. She gasped, I did too - it seemed to touch the ground on both sides and was huge. Many in Cincinnati talked about this rainbow for weeks. Since it occurred on the eve of attacking Iraq. I took that as a sign all would be well.

Those are the only examples I have. I don't feel this way tonight. I think I just feel profound sadness for the displaced families and those that lost loved ones.

It did occur to me a few days ago, all eyes were on NO and cities devastated by Katrina. Thinking like a terrorist (if that is possible) that would have been the time to strike - when we had let our guard down in other cities. But that worry has passed now.

Do I feel calm though - no!

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#4 Postby azskyman » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:49 pm

I posted a topic about our vulnerable "moment" right now on the AFTERMATH thread.

Indeed we are at a vulnerable time, a low ebb with so much seemingly working against us.

But I believe those who would wish us more harm; take advantage of this vulnerable moment, would discover a fast and furious reaction from not only AMERICANS but others around the world IF someone or some group or some country chose THIS time to try to break our will.

Concerned about it, sure. Rules of engagement always say to surprise your enemy at their weakest time.

But I have no doubt it would be a very bad decision that would find a much more united world joining in the repercussions if it happened. It would unite more than it would divide, and it would make some tired and frustrated Americans angry.

And that is not something anyone else would want to see.
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#5 Postby BEER980 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:15 pm

There is something in the air but I don't think it is going down soon. I do think this fall we will see some attacks. I think that France has three targets to watch, in Paris: the Eiffel Tower, the Paris Tunnel, and the Montparnasse district are in the crosshairs. Here is an article that might shed some light on this fall. I will post it here unless the mods think it should be moved to its own topic.

Report Warns of Terrorists' 'Great Ramadan Offensive'
By Sherrie Gossett
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 08, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - Al Qaeda's plans for a series of spectacular terrorist strikes in October, targeting American interests as well as U.S. allies in Europe and the Middle East and said to be coordinated by Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenant in Iraq - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- are the subject of a non-public report issued by terrorism experts this week.

The attacks, planned to coincide with the Muslim observance of Ramadan and dubbed the "Great Ramadan Offensive," are designed to create a "fateful confrontation" with the U.S. and Israeli forces in the Middle East, according to a May 30 letter from Zarqawi to bin Laden. The contents of the letter are referenced in the report written by Yossef Bodansky, the former director of the U.S. Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

The Sept. 2 report is accessible only to government officials on the Global Information System (GIS) database. Cybercast News Service obtained the report on the same day as its release. It warns of planned attacks in Western Europe, Russia and perhaps the continental U.S. The specific targets are believed to include airports at Schiphol in the Netherlands and Fiumicino in Italy. Italy remains on high alert and barricades have been placed around Rome's Colosseum. "Terrorism is coming home," the GIS report quotes one unnamed German senior official. "And it's coming home to those countries whose governments may have believed they were immune from terror because for years they have provided safe haven to notorious Islamic extremists."

An associate of Zarqawi named Abu Abdul Rahman al-Jazaeri, was said to be in Italy, but could not be located by authorities, according to Bodansky, who added that Jazeiri was believed to have recently received from a Zarqawi messenger "the definitive mandate to plan and carry out a major terrorist operation in Italy." In late August Italy announced that it was at an elevated risk for a terrorist attack. The country expelled 700 suspected militants and arrested 141 others. News organizations reported that locks to the entrances of 49 subway stations had been changed and metal barricades erected around the 2,000-year old Colosseum in Rome.

Piecing it all together

Details of the planned attacks were pieced together from intercepted communications between top al Qaeda leaders in the latter part of August, analysis of what counter- terrorism experts described as a dramatic increase in the volume of communication among jihad forces and the observation of an unprecedented movement of jihadists and messengers around the world apparently delivering instructions.

Zarqawi, linked to numerous bombings and the beheadings of several Western hostages in Iraq, reportedly titled his letter to bin Laden, "A Message from a Soldier to His Commander." According to the GIS report, Zarqawi's letter to bin Laden alluded to "the forthcoming grand offensive comprised of escalation in the Middle East and a series of spectacular terrorist strikes" meant to overshadow the impact of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist strikes in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The letter also indicated Zarqawi was expecting bin Laden to approve and authorize the escalation: "I think that the plan for the next stage that was drawn up has reached you or is on its way to you. O God. Make the expedition of Osama proceed toward its goal ... We await your orders as to the next stage of the plan," Zarqawi wrote. An Aug. 8 televised message from bin Laden's overall second-in-command -- Ayman al-Zawahiri - is now viewed as the approval Zarqawi was anticipating. "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of all the media blackout, are only the losses of the initial clashes ... You will see the horror that will make you forget what you had seen in Vietnam," Zawahiri said.

The al Qaeda official's threat, according to the report, wasn't delivered until the jihad forces were organized and ready to strike. The GIS report also cites an Aug. 21 message recorded by Zarqawi, which references the next phase of the terrorist jihad. "The [mujahedeen] in Iraq, have, praise be to God, moved the battle from the ground (in Iraq) to the land of the cross." Zarqawi's message claimed that "[J]ihadist units have been founded in all of Western Europe, to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims, they will reap in their own homes, God willing."

A few days later, according to GIS, a doctrinal statement from Zarqawi emerged, which stressed the priority of al Qaeda in Iraq establishing "another base that will export jihad to all parts of the world the same way the mother al Qaeda in Afghanistan was."

'The heart and lair of the Great Satan'

Bodansky's report states that "concrete preparations for the consolidation of Islamist-jihadist springboards against the heart and lair of the Great Satan are being completed -- for Western Europe in the Balkans, for Russian and Eastern Europe in Chechnya, and for the United States in the tri-border area in Latin America." Widespread anticipation throughout the Muslim world of the Great Ramadan Offensive was being picked up by intelligence analysts in August and then was reinforced by a slew of theological statements -- all buttressing what the GIS report calls "a forthcoming, well-coordinated global onslaught."

The marked increase in the volume of communication, both encrypted and open, exceeded that of the months prior to September 2001, the report states. Bodansky said there is a growing awareness among Western European intelligence services of the "chatter" and activation of jihadist units, led by veterans of Iraq and Chechnya. In early August 2005 Pakistanis arrested a senior operative called Osama bin Yussaf who had detailed maps of Italian, German and British cities stored in his computer. Germany faces the challenge of second and third generation immigrants inspired by the idea of a global jihad, the GIS report notes. Such young jihadists often hold down a regular job, have European passports and are valued assets due to their low profile, and easy mobility.

Bodansky also points to the Aug. 23 decree by Islamist rebels in Chechnya establishing an "emergency government." Details of the decree, not previously reported, inidcate that a "war leadership council" was established and would likely "implement the next cycle of terrorist strikes against Russia" as part of the coordinated global attacks.

Hurricane Katrina's message

Terrorist leaders may also have taken the devastation wrought by hurricane Katrina as a symbol that God is pleased with their plans to launch the "Great Ramadan Offensive," according to the GIS report. "Allah has punished America with winds and water," said one imam quoted in the report. America is under "the curse of the Jews," said another. "It's clear the jihadists regarded Katrina as a sign from God they're doing the right thing," said Gregory R. Copley, president of The International Strategic Studies Association in Washington, D.C.

In a separate analysis, Christopher Brown, research associate with the Hudson Institute's Transitions to Democracy project, warned of the strategic opening that the hurricane aftermath offers jihadists. "If this attack is launched soon, the devastation to the American economy alone could easily far exceed that of the September 11th attacks and could be equivalent in terms of economic impact to the detonation of a small nuclear device on American soil," Brown said.

He also suggested that the timing of Zawahiri's past video messages indicates a terrorist attack may be imminent. His first messages, on Sept. 9 and Nov. 9 of 2004, preceded the Dec. 6, 2004 attack on the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Feb. 20 and June 17, 2005 video messages by Zawahiri preceded the July 7 series of bombings in London. A third set of messages - on Aug. 4 and Sept. 1 - also creates cause for concern, Brown contends.

"If the pattern that has been outlined holds true," says Brown, "then al Qaeda is very likely about to launch a new major or series of major attacks within the next month." Copley agreed, telling Cybercast News Service that, "I think Europe is going to be a prime target, but I think there's no question the U.S. is very much on the schedule. "There will be big things happening over the next few months," he added. Ramadan, a religious observance which includes a period of fasting, is scheduled according to the Islamic calendar. This year it is scheduled from Oct. 4 to Nov. 2. Muslim soldiers on the battlefield are exempt from Ramadan.

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#6 Postby azsnowman » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:32 pm

Na canegrl04........this is a NORMAL reaction, this is but ONE of MANY training classes you are required to attend in order to get into law enforcement, it's natures way, your brains way of letting you know that your under a tremendous amount of stress. All this talk of another terror attack :roll: let's just say, I have not seen ONE single report, one "bolo" (be on the lookout) for any suspecisous activities, besides, if it does happen, there ain't NO AMOUNT of worrying will stop it......."Live like today is your last day, ENJOY what the Good Lord has given you!"

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#7 Postby cajungal » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:08 pm

I don't claim to be a psychic either. But, sometimes I get strange vibes and things happen. Around Sept or Oct, I had a couple of dreams about it snowing here. And it snowed here on Christmas Day. First time in 15 years.

Another bad thing I had happen is that I got really close friends with a co-worker of mine. We went out one night. And I ended up spending the night since we were all drinking that night. I had a dream that he got killed in a car wreck. Well, I did not think much of it. It was only a dream, right? So, of course, I did not say anything because he was going to think I was nuts. So, he walked out the door and headed to work. He got killed in a car wreck 15 minutes after walking out the door. I still live with the guilt to this day. It happened November 19, 1999.

For at least a year before Katrina, I kept having dreams over and over about a violent hurricane hitting here. I had a feeling New Orleans would get one very close to the 40th year anniversary of Betsy. Katrina hit Aug 29th. Betsy's anniversary was Sept 9th. Was very close. And I had 2 more hurricane dreams last night and the night before. But, I think those 2 dreams are just post tramatic stress from Katrina.

And no, I don't know lotto numbers, otherwise I would be rich and not be working at SEARS. And I really don't know the future. But, it is just strange that I get vibes and stuff really happens.
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#8 Postby zoeyann » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:40 am

I get bad feelings often. I also get extremly bad dreams. Because of this I often have major bouts of insomnia. I did not sleep for almost a week before Katrina. My mom always tells my its because I am a nervous, sensitive person. I think maybe she is right. I am always prepared (overprepared) for almost any situation. And once something does happen I become jumpy. I used to not be as bad, but once 9-11 happened I just became convinced that no matter how smoothly things seem to be going the bottom can drop out at any time. Maybe all of these feelings are an indication of me being a control freak. Maybe I feel like if I see see something coming and can prepare myself emotionally and pshyically then I have some control even in uncomtrollable circumstances.
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#9 Postby gtalum » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:43 am

I think it's just a natural reaction to all the doom and gloom constantly reported all over the news media. It's for this precise reason that I rarely watch the news. If you watch the news all the time, you get this sense that nothing good ever happens in the world, which is just completely untrue.
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#10 Postby wxcrazytwo » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:49 am

I got the same feeling, dread, depression, not knowing what was going to happen, etc. Anyways, I was told the above symptoms was because I was getting married. I don't know the symptoms still linger, LOL..
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#11 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:02 am

And zoeyann serves up a triple :wink:
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#12 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:22 am

Skywatch_NC wrote:And zoeyann serves up a triple :wink:


Easy come, easy go... :wink:
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#13 Postby zoeyann » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:16 pm

I don't get it. Did I do something wrong?
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#14 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:40 pm

zoeyann wrote:I don't get it. Did I do something wrong?


LOL! I'm sorry zoey! The S2K gremlin decided to post your thread 3 times, so I deleted 2 of them. :wink:
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#15 Postby zoeyann » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:45 pm

LOL!! That is funny. :lol: I did not realize. No wonder I did not get it.
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#16 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:47 pm

zoeyann wrote:LOL!! That is funny. :lol: I did not realize. No wonder I did not get it.


I was too fast for you!

Yeah, our little gremlin likes to come out and "play" every once in a while! :roll:
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#17 Postby Javlin » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:49 pm

cajungal wrote:I don't claim to be a psychic either. But, sometimes I get strange vibes and things happen. Around Sept or Oct, I had a couple of dreams about it snowing here. And it snowed here on Christmas Day. First time in 15 years.

Another bad thing I had happen is that I got really close friends with a co-worker of mine. We went out one night. And I ended up spending the night since we were all drinking that night. I had a dream that he got killed in a car wreck. Well, I did not think much of it. It was only a dream, right? So, of course, I did not say anything because he was going to think I was nuts. So, he walked out the door and headed to work. He got killed in a car wreck 15 minutes after walking out the door. I still live with the guilt to this day. It happened November 19, 1999.

For at least a year before Katrina, I kept having dreams over and over about a violent hurricane hitting here. I had a feeling New Orleans would get one very close to the 40th year anniversary of Betsy. Katrina hit Aug 29th. Betsy's anniversary was Sept 9th. Was very close. And I had 2 more hurricane dreams last night and the night before. But, I think those 2 dreams are just post tramatic stress from Katrina.

And no, I don't know lotto numbers, otherwise I would be rich and not be working at SEARS. And I really don't know the future. But, it is just strange that I get vibes and stuff really happens.


I have some premonitions not often and most bad w/one good one.With Katrina none,but was strange I had 2-3 deja vu's though.And some of it at the weirdest times.All they told me was that there was no escape from what was to happen.
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