Dennis
"How much LONGER can THIS go ON?"
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"How much LONGER can THIS go ON?"
We are at the END of our ROPES up here.........HOW much LONGER can this dam DRY SPELL GO ON
It's DEPRESSING as ALL HADES to SEE EVERYTHING you've busted your bum over DIE due to the DROUGHT.........it's HORRIBLE, it's beyond WORDS, EVERYTHING is DYING or is already DEAD including my SPIRIT. It's gotten to the point to where I don't even CARE, I don't watch the weather anymore! I turn the channel when it comes on with the local news, I turn off the radio when the weather comes on, I've deleted/blocked The Weather Channel from my digital line up I mean WHY.......it's the same old **** day after day, "Above normal temps, NO moisture in sight!" This down right (pardon the expression) SUCKS!
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Long range GFS shows a colder and wetter look for your area starting in about 12 days...but then again it is the long range GFS. Here is a look at a possible large storm for you guys in 15/16 days IF the GFS were to be right:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml
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All joking aside, I now see why the HoHoKam and Anasazi Indians dissapeared from the Southwest.........it's DROUGHT that killed them! I'm tellin' ya, "IF" we didn't have a modern day water system we'd be in a HEAP O' trouble. I've NEVER seen ANYTHING like it..........it's one thing to have a "dry spell" BUT NOT to have MONTHS and MONTHS and MONTHS without ANY kind of moisture, even a CLOUD for THAT matter.........AH WELL, someday, somehow, SOMEWAY MAYBE, just MAYBE we'll get a cloud!
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By and large the pattern shown on the extended GFS is not one that brings large amounts of precipitation to AZ. The best patterns for such all feature a system that lifts out across the state from around Baja after making a major ST moisture connection or a system that tracks across southern AZ or far northern MX again with a strong moisture connection. Inside sliders or systems that come in from NoCA are usually too far north to be a major rain event. AZ dust is right if the extended GFS has verified routinely, we would have about 40 inches of rain down here since the end of September. I do not see any reasonable amounts of precipitation until the monsoon and that may not be enough if the drought dries it out too much. We are in a feedback loop now that will keep the drought going for some time.
Steve
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Aslkahuna wrote:By and large the pattern shown on the extended GFS is not one that brings large amounts of precipitation to AZ. The best patterns for such all feature a system that lifts out across the state from around Baja after making a major ST moisture connection or a system that tracks across southern AZ or far northern MX again with a strong moisture connection. Inside sliders or systems that come in from NoCA are usually too far north to be a major rain event. AZ dust is right if the extended GFS has verified routinely, we would have about 40 inches of rain down here since the end of September. I do not see any reasonable amounts of precipitation until the monsoon and that may not be enough if the drought dries it out too much. We are in a feedback loop now that will keep the drought going for some time.
Steve
Steve, I've had the water on the lawn for 4 days now and it's JUST now starting to perculate
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I'm having to deep water my fruit trees though it may not be enough since both my nectarine and backyard apricot showed signs of stress last Summer since we didn't get the positive anomalies you did up there during the winter. We haven't even had 10% of normal down here since November 1.
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TT-SEA wrote:It does not look the dry spell will end anytime soon down there.
Big wildfire in Southern California right now. Almost unheard of in early February. This is going to be an UGLY summer in SoCal.
Don't have to WAIT for SUMMER,things are ALREADY "UGLY" here, at THIS rate, we'll be GONE (burned out of house and home) before summer arrives
May God have Mercy on us
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I DO NOT like the sound of the last sentence
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz
A BACK DOOR COLD FRONT WILL BEGIN TO PUSH INTO ARIZONA FROM THE FOUR CORNERS REGION ON FRIDAY. THE 7H TEMP DROPS TO -14 (GFS) OVER THE FOUR CORNERS BY MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL BRING A 10 TO 15 DEGREE DROP IN TEMPERATURES OVER PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SOME PLACES IN THE NORTHEAST COULD SEE A 20 DEGREE DROP IN HIGH TEMPS BY SATURDAY. THE STRENGTHENING OF NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS AND VERY DRY AIR COULD CAUSE SOME FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS.
OH and BTW.........the "February Fire" burning near Payson/Pine/Strawberry area is NOW at 1550 acres........cold temps last night allowed the fire to grow by ONLY 50 acres, wait until SUNRISE.......they are expecting to fire to grow to 2000 acres today
Dennis
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz
A BACK DOOR COLD FRONT WILL BEGIN TO PUSH INTO ARIZONA FROM THE FOUR CORNERS REGION ON FRIDAY. THE 7H TEMP DROPS TO -14 (GFS) OVER THE FOUR CORNERS BY MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL BRING A 10 TO 15 DEGREE DROP IN TEMPERATURES OVER PORTIONS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. SOME PLACES IN THE NORTHEAST COULD SEE A 20 DEGREE DROP IN HIGH TEMPS BY SATURDAY. THE STRENGTHENING OF NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS AND VERY DRY AIR COULD CAUSE SOME FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS.
OH and BTW.........the "February Fire" burning near Payson/Pine/Strawberry area is NOW at 1550 acres........cold temps last night allowed the fire to grow by ONLY 50 acres, wait until SUNRISE.......they are expecting to fire to grow to 2000 acres today
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Based upon the upper air pattern and the location and movement of the ULL in northern Sonora, any precip that falls in AZ will be chiefly in the SE corner of the state possibly getting into the Whites but doubtful. The big problem is going to be the dewpoint crash and winds with the backdoor this weekend. BTW, 90% of what you see on radar in AZ is virga.
Steve
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