Costal Marine layer in Arizona?????

[azsnowman]

Last night we had the MOST intense thunderstorm I've seen in years, if ever there were NO BREAKS, NONE, ZERO between lightning strokes, mainly CC but some major CG thrown in, received 1.31" in an hour and a half, then came this morning! We had a temp of 63° with a DP of 61-62° and then the fog came, I swear, it looked like the marine layer in San Diego during the days of the June Gloom........and it's BACK, no rain just yet but this errie marine layer looking clouds, low to the ground and moving fast!!

[Stephanie]

I'm happy that you're getting that rain. I saw that the SW was painted red yesterday for "severe weather" of all things!

[bob rulz]

Just yesterday? Today, too. There was even a tornado warning for a time in northern Arizona! How often does that happen?

[wxmann_91]

There was even a tornado warning for a time in northern Arizona! How often does that happen?

It's not as rare as one thinks. With the dynamics from ex-Emilia and a good moisture surge, tornadoes can happen.

[Cowhide]

The reason why I think it's not as rare to have tornado warnings in places like Arizona and California anymore is because, it used to be, when a tornado warning was issued, it was because there was one occurring near by. AND IT WAS HEADED THAT WAY.

Now it seems if there is a funnel looking cloud and you hear a fart of thunder, the NWS freaks out.

Now I understand that the purpose of these warnings is to save people's lives, but lately the NWS gets way way way carried away with tornado watches and warnings. When they issue one they'll cover like 500 miles of territory on a map. They did issue one in San Diego last winter, just like a year ago. What are the odds of having a tornado hit the city of San Diego? Slim to none for sure!

Oh well, I guess it's better to be all prepared and panicky and exaggerated than just having the NWS sitting there doing nothing at all and letting people die. I don't know.

And for a sec I though "azsnowman" was making fun of my thread

[azsnowman]

Good morning from foggy Arizona

Here it is again......a dense marine layer covering most of Northern Az. Dewpoint here at the house is "71°" THAT is UNHEARD of up here, I don't ever remember seeing a DP that high.

Actually, just 50 miles to my north near Holbrook, Winslow.....they average 5-6 reported funnel clouds, a few actually touch down, every monsoon season. Just last week there was a confirmed report of a tornado on the GROUND just 12 miles SOUTH of Flagstaff...no damage and it was very short lived but non the less!!

[azsnowman]

http://www.azcentral.com

Lower temps lure residents out of hiding

Michael Clancy and William Hermann
The Arizona Republic
Jul. 28, 2006 12:00 AM


Valley residents love the monsoon season, and days like Wednesday and Thursday are why.

For the first time in what seems like an eternity, the temperature moderated to a humane level. Clouds filled the sky, car windows opened and people emerged from their self-imposed, air-conditioned cocoons.

Temperatures remained under 100 degrees on consecutive days for the first time since Memorial Day. Wednesday's high of 98 was the first time the temperature stayed under 100 since July 7, after the monsoon season's first rain fell. Thursday's 94 was the lowest maximum since May 29. advertisement




Even better, nighttime temperatures dropped into the 70s on consecutive nights, the first time that has happened since June 16-17.

"Finally being under 110 degrees is a wonderful thing," said Rochanne Corpus, 54, of Peoria. "I commute to downtown Phoenix and stop at a park and ride; it was actually nice there this morning. I felt a real breeze!"

There's every reason to feel relief. The relatively cool air comes on the heels of 12 high-temperature record days this month, and 18 since the beginning of June.

If record daytime highs were getting tedious, the record warm nights were getting downright frustrating.

Bridget Alfano, 24, of Mesa who moved to the Valley from Chicago about two years ago, said the recent heat wave "was killing me!"

So far this year, the Valley has seen 19 days that exceed 110 degrees, well above the average of 10 days and only nine days short of the all-time record of 28, set in 1979. Included was a 118-degree day last week that seemed to jump-start the monsoon rains.

We also have seen 11 nights when the temperature did not drop below 90, including a toasty 95 on Saturday.

No wonder the cooling rains, the lower temperatures and the cloudy skies were welcome.

"These clouds, these dark skies, I love it! It reminds me of home. And I'm not sweating like a you-know-what," Alfano said.

But while the clouds have a silver lining, they retain some darkness.

Humidity ranged from 35 to 87 percent Wednesday, and on Thursday at noon, it was lingering in the high 50s. Dew points were in the 79-degree range all day.

With temperatures in the 90s, the air is far from comfortable.

Jeremy Collins, 26, found himself walking along the hot and humid streets in downtown Phoenix on Thursday after the sun had burned off the clouds.

"Man, this humidity will suck the life out of you," Collins said, wiping his sweaty brow. "Still, 118 degrees it's not, so I can't complain too much."

[azsnowman]

www.azcentral.com

Lower temps lure residents out of hiding

Michael Clancy and William Hermann
The Arizona Republic
Jul. 28, 2006 12:00 AM


Valley residents love the monsoon season, and days like Wednesday and Thursday are why.

For the first time in what seems like an eternity, the temperature moderated to a humane level. Clouds filled the sky, car windows opened and people emerged from their self-imposed, air-conditioned cocoons.

Temperatures remained under 100 degrees on consecutive days for the first time since Memorial Day. Wednesday's high of 98 was the first time the temperature stayed under 100 since July 7, after the monsoon season's first rain fell. Thursday's 94 was the lowest maximum since May 29. advertisement




Even better, nighttime temperatures dropped into the 70s on consecutive nights, the first time that has happened since June 16-17.

"Finally being under 110 degrees is a wonderful thing," said Rochanne Corpus, 54, of Peoria. "I commute to downtown Phoenix and stop at a park and ride; it was actually nice there this morning. I felt a real breeze!"

There's every reason to feel relief. The relatively cool air comes on the heels of 12 high-temperature record days this month, and 18 since the beginning of June.

If record daytime highs were getting tedious, the record warm nights were getting downright frustrating.

Bridget Alfano, 24, of Mesa who moved to the Valley from Chicago about two years ago, said the recent heat wave "was killing me!"

So far this year, the Valley has seen 19 days that exceed 110 degrees, well above the average of 10 days and only nine days short of the all-time record of 28, set in 1979. Included was a 118-degree day last week that seemed to jump-start the monsoon rains.

We also have seen 11 nights when the temperature did not drop below 90, including a toasty 95 on Saturday.

No wonder the cooling rains, the lower temperatures and the cloudy skies were welcome.

"These clouds, these dark skies, I love it! It reminds me of home. And I'm not sweating like a you-know-what," Alfano said.

But while the clouds have a silver lining, they retain some darkness.

Humidity ranged from 35 to 87 percent Wednesday, and on Thursday at noon, it was lingering in the high 50s. Dew points were in the 79-degree range all day.

With temperatures in the 90s, the air is far from comfortable.

Jeremy Collins, 26, found himself walking along the hot and humid streets in downtown Phoenix on Thursday after the sun had burned off the clouds.

"Man, this humidity will suck the life out of you," Collins said, wiping his sweaty brow. "Still, 118 degrees it's not, so I can't complain too much."

[brunota2003]

you mean to tell me you have never heard of there being ocean front property there??? j/k:
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
from my front porch you can see the sea
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
An if you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free
its the chorus to a song, but I bet that is probably how you feel...

[azsnowman]

you mean to tell me you have never heard of there being ocean front property there??? j/k:
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
from my front porch you can see the sea
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
An if you'll buy that I'll throw the Golden Gate in free
its the chorus to a song, but I bet that is probably how you feel...

LOL!! Yeah, George Straight knew what he was talkin' about

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz

as of 6:42 am MST on July 28, 2006
Now
Patchy dense fog with visibilities as low as one-quarter mile along with low clouds can be expected over the Mogollon Rim and White Mountains through about 730 am MST. Be on the lookout for sudden changes in visibility. The patchy nature of the fog will drop visibilities quickly in a short distance.

[azsnowman]

Talk about an ACTIVE morning.....I got SLAMMED about an hour ago with 1.75" in just 30 minutes and now......check this out

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/ ... nty=azc017

[arizonasooner]

All that rain in AZ has me jealous. Send some out here to Oklahoma! It is hot and humid here... But no rain in T-town...

WEATHER ROUNDUP FOR OKLAHOMA
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
900 PM CDT FRI JUL 28 2006

CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
TULSA PTCLDY 94 66 39 S9 29.93R HX 97

[azsnowman]

And Heeeeeeere we go yet AGAIN

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF AZ
1020 AM MST SAT JUL 29 2006

AZZ004>018-037>040-300700-
WESTERN MOGOLLON RIM-GRAND CANYON COUNTRY-YAVAPAI COUNTY MOUNTAINS-
YAVAPAI COUNTY VALLEYS AND BASINS-OAK CREEK AND SYCAMORE CANYONS-
MARBLE AND GLEN CANYONS-KAIBAB PLATEAU-COCONINO PLATEAU-
NORTHEAST PLATEAU AND MESAS HWY 264 NORTHWARD-
NORTHEAST PLATEAU AND MESAS SOUTH OF HWY 264-
CHINLE VALLEY-CHUSKA MOUNTAINS AND DEFIANCE PLATEAU-
BLACK MESA AREA-LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN COCONINO COUNTY-
LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN NAVAJO COUNTY-
LITTLE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY IN APACHE COUNTY-
EASTERN MOGOLLON RIM-WHITE MOUNTAINS-NORTHERN GILA COUNTY-
1020 AM MST SAT JUL 29 2006

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR APACHE...COCONINO...NORTHERN
GILA...NAVAJO...AND YAVAPAI COUNTIES IN NORTHERN ARIZONA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY

A MOIST...UNSTABLE AIRMASS WILL BRING ANOTHER DAY OF THUNDERSTORM
ACTIVITY TO NORTHERN ARIZONA. MID LEVEL CLOUDINESS OVER MANY AREAS
WILL DELAY THE ONSET OF CONVECTION TO 1100 AM OR EVEN NOON. STORM
MOTION WILL BE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH EARLIER IN THE DAY...BECOMING
NORTHEAST TO SOUTHWEST LATER IN THE DAY. EXPECT GREATEST ACTIVITY
FROM THE KAIBAB PLATEAU...ALONG THE MOGOLLON RIM...TO THE WHITE
MOUNTAIN...AND SOUTHWEST OF THESE AREAS. THE GREATEST THREAT POSED
BY TODAY'S STORMS IS THE RISK OF FLASH FLOODING /DUE TO RELATIVELY
SLOW STORM MOVEMENT/. PLEASE SEE PRODUCT PHXFFAFGZ FOR THE
ASSOCIATED FLASH FLOOD WATCH.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY

EXPECT CONTINUED AFTERNOON THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY THROUGH MONDAY WITH
SOME CHANCE OF DRIER CONDITIONS THEREAFTER.

[azskyman]

Hey Dennis....feast or famine, I see. I like the cooler (96-102) temperatures we have been getting, but the soupy air is plenty humid. Had a dew point of 81, yes 81, just before that storm hit much of Scottsdale and south Phoenix earlier in the week (that storm missed me altogether).

So far just 1.02" of rain for the entire month of July at my station, but thunder heard on many days. I'm hoping for another soaker today before it BEGINS to dry out down here in the Valley as the week progresses.

I see Tucson and Sierra Vista and surrounding area got a good soaking on top of already wet ground this morning.

Watch out for those flash floods? But the wildfire season is becoming less an less likely with each days rains now...and all the humid conditions too.

Feast or famine!

[azsnowman]

Yes indeed Steve.....that's the thing about Az, NOTHING is consistant except for the "flood of illegal aliens" OPPS, I mean, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

Yes indeed, I've been cutting a slice of air to go with my coffee in the mornings, just had another decent round of rain with MANY more on the way.....check out the radar!