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Hurricane Ioke thread

#1 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:34 pm

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#2 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:34 pm

also, could we make html available here so I can shorten the link?
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:38 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:also, could we make html available here so I can shorten the link?


Derek made a hypertext link to make it shorter.
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#4 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:38 pm

Uncommon CPac invest. It looks quite good for there - I'd give it a 30% chance of development.
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#5 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:38 pm

I saw this invest come up 45 minutes ago. Looks great so far.
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#6 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:41 pm

I think what we are seeing is a pattern similar to 1996 with El Nino starting up (but it will be too late to affect the 2006 season too much). That means 2007 will (I think) be a fairly quiet year in the Atlantic - and an insane year in the Pacific.
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#7 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:34 pm

This thing looks very good I say 70 percent chance for depression. The last hurricane to form over the central Pacific I think was 2002. It was also a El nino year.
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#8 Postby WmE » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:37 pm

In 2002 ther have been 3 CPac storms: TS Alika, Hurricane Ele and Hurricane Huko.

Wow, it looks really good. Looks like an option for a new CPac storm.
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#9 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:38 pm

Heck the south Atlatnics been more active!
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#10 Postby wxmann_91 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:39 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I think what we are seeing is a pattern similar to 1996 with El Nino starting up (but it will be too late to affect the 2006 season too much). That means 2007 will (I think) be a fairly quiet year in the Atlantic - and an insane year in the Pacific.


Actually, we've already have as many named storms in the EPAC this year as there was in the entire year of 1996.

I think you mean 1997. :wink:
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#11 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:49 pm

LLC has formed on quickscat elongated some but its there. Also three bars-30 knots. TD soon enough.

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/sto ... _cp_0.html
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#12 Postby benny » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:49 pm

Yuck. As if all the systems in the EastPac aren't enough... now the Central Pacific gets active.. there is nothing worse really for a stormlover in the Atlantic. It takes an El Nino-like circulation to get systems forming and to intensify in that region.. *sigh*
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#13 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:50 pm

It's just an invest.
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#14 Postby benny » Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:58 pm

Scorpion wrote:It's just an invest.


For now.. eeek. central pacific storm formation do not portend good things.. the shear looks pretty low and something might get going...
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#15 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:01 pm

I don't see how a storm forming in the CPAC can induce shear over the Atlantic. The warm SST's in the Atlantic should counteract any El Nino that forms.
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#16 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:07 pm

SSTs are a necessary but not sufficient condition

SSTs do not override wind shear
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#17 Postby benny » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:18 pm

Scorpion wrote:I don't see how a storm forming in the CPAC can induce shear over the Atlantic. The warm SST's in the Atlantic should counteract any El Nino that forms.


It isn't the storm forming by itself that worries me. The CPAC is very quiet on a seasonal basis. Usually an upper trough sits over the region and doesn't allow anything to form. To get significant systems there.. you must have a rather large change in the circulation pattern. This means having a stronger-than-average upper high over the region... and more low-level westerly flow than average. Unfortunately these things happen in the central pacific most commonly with El Nino... or a really strong MJO that alters the environment. I'm not saying it is the doom of the season.. but if you look at a list of Central Pacific storm formation years... (or hurricane) during the summer... it isn't a pretty list.

I don't know if the warm Atlc SSTs will counteract any El Nino... the atmosphere is more complex than that. I'm starting to feel like the season may favor less storms in the deep tropics and more in the mid-latitudes... but just a gut feeling.
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#18 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:23 pm

I would not mind if this became another Huko.
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#19 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:33 pm

Darn it theres a trough/Tutt like system right ahead of it. Iin shearing it. I don't care where the hurricanes form just give me hurricanes. I don't care if they form the south Atlatnic,central Pacific,western pacific,Indian ocean. Heck as long as there is something the Atlatnic can be as dead as a door nail. Theres good in the Atlanitc because of the recon,radar,buoys. Which adds to the info...Which is the main reason why I went hurricanes to form in the Atlantic.
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#20 Postby Scorpion » Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:34 pm

Good news then :D
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