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Max Mayfield - most memorable storm....

#1 Postby sunny » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:51 pm

is Katrina. There's a surprise. I like Max - I'll miss him as Director of the NHC.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... ld_hu.html
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#2 Postby MGC » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:23 pm

Katrina is the one storm I'd like to forget.....MGC
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#3 Postby f5 » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:18 pm

i wonder how long it will be before Katrina is off the radar screen as far as gulf coast residents go most likely never
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#4 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:22 pm

f5 wrote:i wonder how long it will be before Katrina is off the radar screen as far as gulf coast residents go most likely never


Katrina will never be off radar.
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#5 Postby gtalum » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:34 pm

Yeah remember that Camille was still "on the radar" nearly 40 years later. Katrina was bigger and badder. I doubt anyone will forget her in their lifetime.
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#6 Postby sunny » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:35 pm

gtalum wrote:Yeah remember that Camille was still "on the radar" nearly 40 years later. Katrina was bigger and badder. I doubt anyone will forget her in their lifetime.


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#7 Postby Lindaloo » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:37 pm

gtalum wrote:Yeah remember that Camille was still "on the radar" nearly 40 years later. Katrina was bigger and badder. I doubt anyone will forget her in their lifetime.



Camille was bad, Katrina was the worst.
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#8 Postby MGC » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:40 pm

Camille was bad. So bad in fact that honestly I never ever thought Camille's wrath on the Mississippi and Louisiana coast would be exceeded in my lifetime. I still have the vivid memories of Camille's damage. That was the first time (and stupid me thought it would be the last) that I saw a house blocking HWY 90, houses reduced to splinters and washed out roads. Well, Katrina made Camille's damage look like child's play. Hard to believe and I still shake my head in disbelief. I drive HWY 90 every day going to work and am still amazed at natures furry.....MGC
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#9 Postby StormScanWx » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:03 am

Stephanie Abrams on The Weather Channel said last night that Max Mayfield will be on "Abrams & Bettes" tonight.
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#10 Postby f5 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:29 am

Katrina was a CAT 3 but produced one of the biggest storm surge recorded in world history
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#11 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:31 pm

Wilma was a pretty memorable storm in my mind. Although the damage couldn't match Katrina in the end, how she blew up and the strength she reached was amazing. She truly looked perfect.
Luckily she didn't hit anywhere at peak strength.
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#12 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:31 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Wilma was a pretty memorable storm in my mind. Although the damage couldn't match Katrina in the end, how she blew up and the strength she reached was amazing. She truly looked perfect.
Luckily she didn't hit anywhere at peak strength.


Max Mayfield says Katrina. :D
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#13 Postby sunny » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:32 am

Lindaloo wrote:
TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Wilma was a pretty memorable storm in my mind. Although the damage couldn't match Katrina in the end, how she blew up and the strength she reached was amazing. She truly looked perfect.
Luckily she didn't hit anywhere at peak strength.


Max Mayfield says Katrina. :D


Thank you!
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#14 Postby Jim Cantore » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:56 pm

Lindaloo wrote:
gtalum wrote:Yeah remember that Camille was still "on the radar" nearly 40 years later. Katrina was bigger and badder. I doubt anyone will forget her in their lifetime.



Camille was bad, Katrina was the worst.


Reminds me of something I saw on TWC during the aftermath. Somebody in Mississippi painted on what was left of their roof "Camille who?"

Katrina will NEVER be forgotten.
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#15 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:16 pm

Of course, experience is not always the best teacher.

There is always a possibility...not a good one, but one nonetheless...that Katrina could be dwarfed in the future...
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#16 Postby MGC » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:59 am

In a way I guess we here along the NGOM coast were lucky Katrina weakened to a Cat 3. Had we seen Cat-4 or 5 winds here too go along with the surge it would have been way worst. Just think if Katrina had come in a little further west and put all of the New Orleans metro area in the 30 foot surge zone. The city would likely be gone.....MGC
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#17 Postby f5 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:03 pm

thats whats scary Katrina was a huge 5 at one time
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#18 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:15 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Of course, experience is not always the best teacher.

There is always a possibility...not a good one, but one nonetheless...that Katrina could be dwarfed in the future...


Make that five possibilities...

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These are just a few of the many examples of potential very costly storms.

Depending possibly on some other factors, any one of these tracks and storm setups could quite possibly exceed $100 billion. Also, for at least some areas, the actual damage total nearly always exceeds the earlier estimates (in my opinion, the $80 to $90 billion for the 1926 hurricane in Florida today is too conservative, as Wilma proved with $20 billion as a Category Two in southeast metropolitan Florida).

It is quite clear that the next major hurricane in southeast Florida would likely top $100 billion in Florida alone, and if it strikes another region after hitting southern Florida (such as along the Gulf coast), it would only increase the damage costs. As Mayfield said, it is very likely (and unfortunately) inevitable that we will see a storm eventually top Katrina in damage costs (but hopefully not in lives lost). Southern Florida (both Gulf and Atlantic sides), the Mid-Atlantic and New England, portions of the Texas coastline, and the Carolinas are all living proof.

There are just so many regions, both inland and coastal, that are vulnerable. Taking into account the more densely populated regions with higher propery values (ala Miami through Palm Beach, Naples and Fort Myers, and the Tampa area and Jacksonville vicinity), there are just too many possible scenarios for a storm to top Katrina in damage totals. I'm not saying it will happen frequently (because, as you noted, it is rare), but my main point is that eventually there is a chance it may likely happen, but only over a broad scale of time period.

By the way, sorry if this seems a bit off topic. It is not meant to be offensive, either, but just an analysis of some facts.
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#19 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:16 pm

to this day, the last minute rapid collapse of the eyewall of Katrina is yet to be determined. Was not eyewall replacement as some have suggested (based upon what, I have no clue as the flight level winds only changed within the eyewall, not an outer band)

However, it did and that may have saved many lives (especially in NO... the attics would have been out of the question had it not have weakened, cat 3 winds instead of cat 1 would have probably occurred in the western eyewall)
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#20 Postby sunny » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:18 pm

I thought this was about Max Mayfield's thoughts.....
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