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VIDEO: Category 4-5 Conditions?

#1 Postby Category 5 » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:57 pm

Hurricane Ivan in Grand Cayman.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj7BSCNqZF4[/youtube]
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#2 Postby loro-rojo » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:22 pm

Strong winds, but they look cat 3 to me. Maybe a cat 4 gust here and there, but mostly cat 3.
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#3 Postby CycloneJim » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:33 am

I agree, the winds look cat-3 to me also. Probably averaging 110 to 120 mph during the video. I like the scene of the royal palm getting its top blown off.
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#4 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:47 am

Nice video. It looks very violent outside and makes me realize even more that what I experienced during Katrina and Wilma was nothing compared to a significant hurricane.
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#5 Postby Blown Away » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:14 pm

I know 80-100 mph winds w/ @115 gusts when I see them. Frances, Jeanne, and Wilma. That video reflects Cat 1,2 winds w/ low Cat 3 gusts.
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#6 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:48 pm

would be good to get some real cat 4 winds from Cayman in Ivan (if anyone was recording during then)

To give an idea how strong the winds were there (reported sustained at 130KT, so the 130KT in the BT may be on the low end, 135-140, IMO, would have been appropriate (especially based upon how Ivan was declared to have been a cat 3 at landfall, despite only having cat 1 winds reported), despite the fact that Cayman went under water during the storm, the winds by far did the majority of the damage.

A sustained EF3 tornado with gusts to the EF4 range. Do not need a surge at those winds to flatten large parts of the coast
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#7 Postby Scorpion » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:12 pm

Blown_away wrote:I know 80-100 mph winds w/ @115 gusts when I see them. Frances, Jeanne, and Wilma. That video reflects Cat 1,2 winds w/ low Cat 3 gusts.


The only hurricane that hit us with winds that high was Wilma
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#8 Postby wxman57 » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:21 pm

Just got home and took a look at the video. For the most part, it looks like 45-70 mph winds with some peaks between 70-85 mph. That's certainly not Cat 3-4 winds. Such winds would have torn the roofs off the buildings/houses. I didn't see any wind that looked over 100 mph. Most people have never seen true 74+ mph sustained winds (or even gusts to 74+ mph). Wind force quadruples with a doubling of wind speed. That is, a 100 mph wind is 4 times as strong as a 50 mph wind.
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#9 Postby Opal storm » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:48 pm

Those winds in the video look very similar to what I saw during Dennis.
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#10 Postby Category 5 » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:44 pm

Looked alot higher last time I watched it.

Watching it again it doesn't look as high.
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#11 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:49 pm

Amazing every time I see winds like that...
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#12 Postby docjoe » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:57 pm

Opal storm wrote:Those winds in the video look very similar to what I saw during Dennis.


I was thinking the same thing except stronger. There was a brief period just before the eye where I have no doubt we had noticeably stronger steady winds and stronger gusts. I was able to film it all but later lost the video when I recorded my house damage for the insurance company.

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#13 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:43 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just got home and took a look at the video. For the most part, it looks like 45-70 mph winds with some peaks between 70-85 mph. That's certainly not Cat 3-4 winds. Such winds would have torn the roofs off the buildings/houses. I didn't see any wind that looked over 100 mph. Most people have never seen true 74+ mph sustained winds (or even gusts to 74+ mph). Wind force quadruples with a doubling of wind speed. That is, a 100 mph wind is 4 times as strong as a 50 mph wind.
I somewhat agree with your analysis (though I think the winds might be a little higher), but to be fair I should note that the building in the foreground is missing half of it's roof during the video. Also, there were many wind reports of sustained winds over 120mph with a top gust as high as 181mph on the island of Grand Cayman during Ivan ( According to this link: http://stormcarib.com/reports/2004/SRYCAYMAN.PDF ). Was this video just not shot during the highest winds I guess? Because I have no doubt that some areas of Grand Cayman did see Cat. 2-4 force winds at some point during the storm.
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#14 Postby Blown Away » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:06 am

Scorpion wrote:
Blown_away wrote:I know 80-100 mph winds w/ @115 gusts when I see them. Frances, Jeanne, and Wilma. That video reflects Cat 1,2 winds w/ low Cat 3 gusts.


The only hurricane that hit us with winds that high was Wilma

Martin County had Cat 1 low end Cat 2 sustained winds w/ gusts over 100mph.
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#15 Postby Scorpion » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:27 am

Those winds look at least hurricane force... there is no way I would be able to stand in that (I was able to stand during the worst of Wilma, but barely)
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#16 Postby x-y-no » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:16 am

Those winds look to be an order of magnitude weaker than what I saw during Andrew (post-assesment says Andrew was strong Cat-3 in that neighborhood.) So I'd say that's middling Cat-2 in the video.
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#17 Postby vacanechaser » Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:13 pm

i would say they looked to be near 100mph with some places in the video looking near cat 3... i would have to agree with jim above... he has been in more hurricanes than anyone here.. if he says cat 3, then it is cat 3 or very close...



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#18 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:01 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just got home and took a look at the video. For the most part, it looks like 45-70 mph winds with some peaks between 70-85 mph. That's certainly not Cat 3-4 winds. Such winds would have torn the roofs off the buildings/houses. I didn't see any wind that looked over 100 mph. Most people have never seen true 74+ mph sustained winds (or even gusts to 74+ mph). Wind force quadruples with a doubling of wind speed. That is, a 100 mph wind is 4 times as strong as a 50 mph wind.


If Hurricane Gilbert had hit Texas in 1988, many Texans would of experienced real hurricane force winds. :eek: Alicia does not past muster for sure.
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#19 Postby Hurricane Freak PR » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:42 pm

Hello to all...

I agree there with Jim, seems like solid hurricane conditions, specially given the appearance of the vegetation and the palm tree with its top being blown off. In places like Grand Cayman would be harder to get many roofs flying in a video as it has a lot more strict building code than many other countries in this basin...

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#20 Postby Category 5 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:16 pm

This is 100mph at least (I stink as estimates)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6mq2c7J ... ed&search=

And the imfamous video of Hugo in Pueto Rico

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lhj2QUFIyQ
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