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GFS Low pressure off the East Coast 144HRS

#1 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:59 am

I'm kind of surprised that no one else caught this yet. Eventhough it mostly is a cut-off upper low it definitely has a a surface reflection/feature with it. What do you guys, think... looks like it may be a little something to watch over the next couple of weeks.





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#2 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:00 pm

If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.
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#3 Postby windstorm99 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:05 pm

Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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#4 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:40 pm

If it sits around there long enough, something to watch for sure
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#5 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:05 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:
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#6 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:09 pm

jaxfladude wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:


:roll: ...Unless they have evidence to back them up they wont...There was a system last year off the off the east coast that should have been named but was not...they dont freely hand out names to every system that develops
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#7 Postby Noles2006 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:53 pm

jaxfladude wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:


Dude, stop with this kind of crap.
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#8 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:57 pm

Yeah, NHC is pretty conservative about about upgrading systems. The tropical storm last year and the subtropical storm in 2005 were missed, and they very grudgingly named Vince. I think they missed a tropical storm already this year.
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#9 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:13 pm

Noles2006 wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:


Dude, stop with this kind of crap.

More storms named means more cash in next year's NOAA(NHC/TPC)budget hopefully in their minds, also 2006 was a quieter season than expected....
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#10 Postby artist » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:15 pm

jaxfladude wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:


Dude, stop with this kind of crap.

More storms named means more cash in next year's NOAA(NHC/TPC)budget hopefully in their minds, also 2006 was a quieter season than expected....

Can you post a link to where you heard this to be fact, please?
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#11 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:17 pm

They only named it when recon had proof to upgrade it..not before....that had all they needed to upgrade, they didnt need to stretch anything...I just dont see your point on this one
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#12 Postby artist » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:21 pm

artist wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:
Noles2006 wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:
Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:If it develops further south, I'd say it has a shot of being tropical.
Otherwise...looks to be a cold-core gale center.



windstorm99 wrote:Most probably will be something non-tropical but we'll see.

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..........and the NHC/TPC will name it soon as possible... :idea:


Dude, stop with this kind of crap.

More storms named means more cash in next year's NOAA(NHC/TPC)budget hopefully in their minds, also 2006 was a quieter season than expected....


And let's say it were true then what would be the harm of them getting a bigger budget, unless you don't want them to have the money for better forecasting?
Can you post a link to where you heard this to be fact, please?
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#13 Postby LSU2001 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:28 pm

Jaxfladude you really need to lay off the NHC. The number of named storms has nothing to do with their budget so get off the idea that they will name everything. This board tries very hard to not bash/slander the National Hurricane Center for any reason. However, we sometimes do disagree with their actions and we post about these times rather vigorously. WE DO NOT believe in off handed and sly remarks about anyone including the NHC. I cannot speak for the mods or the admins but the kind of attitude you are showing this early in the season does not bode well for your continued posting rights on S2K.

Just my opinion.
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#14 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:09 pm

From the NWS Sterling AFD:

WFO Sterling wrote:.LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/...
PLSNT WX FOR ERLY JUN ON TAP FOR THE 1ST PART OF THE XTND PD. UPR
LVL TROF OVR THE ERN SEABOARD WILL ASSIST IN KEEPING TEMPS COOLER FM
THE 85-90 NUMBERS WE XPRNCD AT THE END OF MAY/1ST DAYS OF JUNE. UPR
LVL INSTABILITY COULD SPAWN RW/ISOLD T...BETTER CHC DURG DAY TUE
THAN MON NGT..BUT ONLY LO CHC. HIGH PRTES XPCTD TO BUILD IN DURG
MIDWEEK AS TROF EXITS. YDA I WAS TALKING ABT 90 FOR END OF WK/INTO
WKND...BUT NEW MEX TRENDING COOLER. IN THE UNUSUAL DEPT. I NOTICED
THAT THE GFS TAKES THE LOW THAT'S OVER MID ATLC RIGHT NOW...COMBINES
IT WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED UPR TROF...AND THEN SENDS THEN SEWD FM
CAPE COD TO A POSN A FEW HUNDRED MILES E OF ORF. IF THIS DOES OCCUR
I EXPECT THIS WOULD LV MID ATLC IN SUBSIDENCE RGN. BUT THAT'S A LONG
WAY OUT. FOR NOW WL LV TEMPS OF 85-90 FOR NEXT WKND.


I doubt that surface low at 144hrs will verify . . . regardless, it doesn't sound tropical to me . . . though if it sits out there long enough, I think some of us on the East Coast are going to fry . . . again . . .
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#15 Postby Cryomaniac » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:14 pm

LSU2001 wrote:Jaxfladude you really need to lay off the NHC. The number of named storms has nothing to do with their budget so get off the idea that they will name everything. This board tries very hard to not bash/slander the National Hurricane Center for any reason. However, we sometimes do disagree with their actions and we post about these times rather vigorously. WE DO NOT believe in off handed and sly remarks about anyone including the NHC. I cannot speak for the mods or the admins but the kind of attitude you are showing this early in the season does not bode well for your continued posting rights on S2K.

Just my opinion.
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I agree that Jaxfladude's attitude is a little off, but in my opinion we should be allowed to criticise the NHC (or anyone for that matter) if we don't agree with something they do or say.
The above being said, I very much doubt that the budget is linked to the number of named storms (it would madness, frankly, look at '05 compared to '06), so maybe this guy is bashing for the sake of it.

I suppose my point is that someone shouldn't be hated on for bashing the NHC, as long as they have something vaugely resembling a valid point.
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#16 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:19 pm

:uarrow: I agree, but criticism has to be supported by facts not opinions. One thing is to BELIEVE that the NHC is doing a wrong job, and another is to SUPPORT WITH FACTS an accusation to the NHC like I did during Andrea by comparing pre-Andrea to many other named storms.
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#17 Postby jaxfladude » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:21 pm

Cryomaniac wrote:
LSU2001 wrote:Jaxfladude you really need to lay off the NHC. The number of named storms has nothing to do with their budget so get off the idea that they will name everything. This board tries very hard to not bash/slander the National Hurricane Center for any reason. However, we sometimes do disagree with their actions and we post about these times rather vigorously. WE DO NOT believe in off handed and sly remarks about anyone including the NHC. I cannot speak for the mods or the admins but the kind of attitude you are showing this early in the season does not bode well for your continued posting rights on S2K.

Just my opinion.
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I agree that Jaxfladude's attitude is a little off, but in my opinion we should be allowed to criticise the NHC (or anyone for that matter) if we don't agree with something they do or say.

The above being said, I very much doubt that the budget is linked to the number of named storms (it would madness, frankly, look at '05 compared to '06), so maybe this guy is bashing for the sake of it.

I suppose my point is that someone shouldn't be hated on for bashing the NHC, as long as they have something vaugely resembling a valid point.

Thanks....already got a PM warning that said if I say something against(read:"bashing") the NHC I will lose my account to STORM2K Forums...
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#18 Postby Janie2006 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:19 pm

Speculation about the NHC/TPC's decisions is one thing, accusations of naming storms in order to fill some quota is another thing entirely. And that is the essential matter here. The continued accusations do amount to bashing, partly because its a distortion of the federal funding process and also because they set up the NHC as a sort of mafia boss who throws the baseball games in order to collect the profits. It simply isn't the way NHC does business.

We've dealt with this issue following Andrea and now I see the same accusation being floated again, with no proof whatsoever forthcoming. I'd listen to Tim's advice, but that's just me.
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#19 Postby flwxwatcher » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:47 pm

Well.. lets see if a storm does form like the GFS is showing and then we can argue if its is tropical or should be named:):):)
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#20 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:59 pm

Both Andrea and Barry had more then enough to be upgraded to tropical cyclones. In fact Andrea looked much better after it was down graded. 91L did not look bad. I think the Nhc is doing a very good job this season. I'm kind of impressed.
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