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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#381 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:21 am

Big warm up after christmas, but starting to see hints of the PNA going negative toward the ens of december on the overnight GFS run, SE ridge trying to show up
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#382 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:51 am

This +PNA ridge may kill all December snow chances
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#383 Postby snowballzzz » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:28 am

Not much to look forward to before the new year, weather wise. It feels like a spring morning outside right now. Humid and in the 60s the week before Christmas!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#384 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:54 am

snowballzzz wrote:Not much to look forward to before the new year, weather wise. It feels like a spring morning outside right now. Humid and in the 60s the week before Christmas!


The weather should actually be really nice beginning around the middle of this coming week and lasting through next weekend, but the next few days are gonna feel like spring, for sure.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#385 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:23 am

PNA ridge is trending even stronger positive next week, now it looks like almost all the cold air is going to going off to the se of texas, we need to see a transition to a -PNA in january , this + PNA has been an absolute killer for rain chances and cold so far
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#386 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:33 am

Stratton23 wrote:PNA ridge is trending even stronger positive next week, now it looks like almost all the cold air is going to going off to the se of texas, we need to see a transition to a -PNA in january , this + PNA has been an absolute killer for rain chances and cold so far


The east coast almost always gets more exciting weather than us. It has annoyed me for years.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#387 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:38 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:PNA ridge is trending even stronger positive next week, now it looks like almost all the cold air is going to going off to the se of texas, we need to see a transition to a -PNA in january , this + PNA has been an absolute killer for rain chances and cold so far


The east coast almost always gets more exciting weather than us. It has annoyed me for years.

It's mainly about ridge trough placement. Too far east or west isn't good regardless. Timing is tough around here and why our averages of snow aren't high
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#388 Postby Gotwood » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:45 pm

Wont the position of the HP from the front play an important role on where the cold air goes?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#389 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:50 pm

Looking at ensembles, their is clear and good agreement that toward the end of december, that aleutian trough/ pacific jet pattern is going to retract and head towards eastern asia, you can see the return of alaskan ridging on all ensembles around the 30th of the month
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#390 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:26 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Looking at ensembles, their is clear and good agreement that toward the end of december, that aleutian trough/ pacific jet pattern is going to retract and head towards eastern asia, you can see the return of alaskan ridging on all ensembles around the 30th of the month

Get the -epo going on gefs and eps, we be in business
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#391 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:39 pm

Even up here a met talking about 70 degrees for Christmas yikes

I'm giad I went to Colorado it may be the only snow this year at this rate :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#392 Postby CaptinCrunch » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:01 pm

Fortunately for me I discount all models more than 7days out. It's a nice today, but it's not lasting long, back to rain and colder weather heading into Tuesday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#393 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:20 pm

Golfisnteasy7575 -EPO is starting to comeback on both ensembles, the main talk this winter that ive been noticing is the - EPO is going to be a more persistent factor ( it comes back more often and quicker following a warm up) the talk has been is the end of december and going into january we will be transitioning to a -EPO/ + TNH type pattern, i dont know much about the TNH, but i do hope thats a good teleconmection for cold down here
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#394 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:56 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Golfisnteasy7575 -EPO is starting to comeback on both ensembles, the main talk this winter that ive been noticing is the - EPO is going to be a more persistent factor ( it comes back more often and quicker following a warm up) the talk has been is the end of december and going into january we will be transitioning to a -EPO/ + TNH type pattern, i dont know much about the TNH, but i do hope thats a good teleconmection for cold down here

That good news. I believe it will be later before it happens than beginning of January imo
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#395 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:34 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Golfisnteasy7575 -EPO is starting to comeback on both ensembles, the main talk this winter that ive been noticing is the - EPO is going to be a more persistent factor ( it comes back more often and quicker following a warm up) the talk has been is the end of december and going into january we will be transitioning to a -EPO/ + TNH type pattern, i dont know much about the TNH, but i do hope thats a good teleconmection for cold down here


I’ve never heard of THN in my life till a few weeks ago if I’m being honest lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#396 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 14, 2024 5:21 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:Golfisnteasy7575 -EPO is starting to comeback on both ensembles, the main talk this winter that ive been noticing is the - EPO is going to be a more persistent factor ( it comes back more often and quicker following a warm up) the talk has been is the end of december and going into january we will be transitioning to a -EPO/ + TNH type pattern, i dont know much about the TNH, but i do hope thats a good teleconmection for cold down here


I’ve never heard of THN in my life till a few weeks ago if I’m being honest lol


Lol I've never heard of it before either but from what I can see positive is the only one good for us

Negative floods with pacific air
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#397 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:23 pm

What i do know about the TNH is a positive phase is associated with cold in the western and central US, which is what the setup is looking like for january, combine that with a -EPO and a potential SSWE late next week or following week, and january could be wild, POW Ponder talked today about January potentially getting really cold across most of the US
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#398 Postby TropicalTundra » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm

The GFS has a ULL develop out of Mexico that brings a system Wednesday night into Thursday along with near-freezing temps at several levels. NAM isn’t in range but it has essentially the same setup, possibly something to watch?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#399 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:11 pm

TropicalTundra worth watching for sure, though dont really see much cold air for that to work with, though you never know with these ULL’s
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#400 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:30 pm

What was that move 12z EPS? A Super Pacific Blowtorch that is so bad that Alaska torches along with the rest of North America?
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