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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1141 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:47 am

Huge expansion west of the mdt risk in the new spc outlook, but removal of the hatched tornado area. I suspect they’re being cautious, and think this will be added back in at some point. 6z nam still shows SRH values at 400-500, and is initializing 3-4 degrees too cold. Current conditions are more in line with the hrrr, which forecasts up to 2200 j/kg of SBCAPE. The thought of those instability values meeting with those SRH values has me nervous that convection in the open warm sector is being underdone.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1142 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:30 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1143 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:40 am

So the MJO forecast has changed in our favor for the long range. This is why the GFS is forecasting the motherload coming down.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1144 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:05 am

Looks like some great biking weather on the 00Z GFS. Below freezing most of the week from the 20th-24th in Houston. 3-6 inches of snow. Over a foot of snow in southern AL. Note the small hole in the snow over the D-FW area. I believe it!

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1145 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:10 am

12z FWD sounding is pretty impressive already but a pretty stout warm layer.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1146 Postby BTAYLOR5021 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:20 am

Last few winters the moisture has been well east and sometimes south regarding winter systems. Dfw would usually get more winter precip than Atlanta for example. Latley it's been reversed. Extended forecaste showing just that ice/snow for Georgia while cold and dry Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1147 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:27 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks like some great biking weather on the 00Z GFS. Below freezing most of the week from the 20th-24th in Houston. 3-6 inches of snow. Over a foot of snow in southern AL. Note the small hole in the snow over the D-FW area. I believe it!

http://wxman57.com/images/00ZGFSm.JPG

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If this goes down you can have an early Spring.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1148 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:40 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:So the MJO forecast has changed in our favor for the long range. This is why the GFS is forecasting the motherload coming down.


Yes, that is the reason indeed. Now, we waIt as time progresses to see if the EURO will flip its script pertaining to the long range arctic cold dropping southbound!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1149 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:49 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:Huge expansion west of the mdt risk in the new spc outlook, but removal of the hatched tornado area. I suspect they’re being cautious, and think this will be added back in at some point. 6z nam still shows SRH values at 400-500, and is initializing 3-4 degrees too cold. Current conditions are more in line with the hrrr, which forecasts up to 2200 j/kg of SBCAPE. The thought of those instability values meeting with those SRH values has me nervous that convection in the open warm sector is being underdone.

And sure enough the hatched risk is back and has been dramatically expanded. 15% has been added to the Sabine valley as well
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1150 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:59 am

northjaxpro wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:So the MJO forecast has changed in our favor for the long range. This is why the GFS is forecasting the motherload coming down.


Yes, that is the reason indeed. Now, we waIt as time progresses to see if the EURO will flip its script pertaining to the long range arctic cold dropping southbound!


Yep, the GFS has been taking the Euro to the woodshed with it's MJO forecast....impressive! Upgrades appear to be working!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1151 Postby WacoWx » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:11 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:And sure enough the hatched risk is back and has been dramatically expanded. 15% has been added to the Sabine valley as well


Can you point me to this graphic?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1152 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:18 am

The forecast still seems to be holding strong with a 50% chance of snow up this way tonight and tomorrow morning. I guess we’ll see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1153 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:19 am

WacoWx wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:And sure enough the hatched risk is back and has been dramatically expanded. 15% has been added to the Sabine valley as well


Can you point me to this graphic?

http://www.spc.noaa.gov
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1154 Postby Cerlin » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:20 am

Well, the 12z NAM 3k has a small snow band for parts of DFW but that’s pretty much the only model showing anything snow wise in the metroplex. The northward shift has been showing itself for the past few runs. Not surprising that models have dropped the support for wrap around flakes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1155 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:33 am

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Looks like some great biking weather on the 00Z GFS. Below freezing most of the week from the 20th-24th in Houston. 3-6 inches of snow. Over a foot of snow in southern AL. Note the small hole in the snow over the D-FW area. I believe it!

http://wxman57.com/images/00ZGFSm.JPG
http://wxman57.com/images/00ZGFS.png


If this goes down you can have an early Spring.


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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1156 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:34 am

Relying on wrap-around is a fool's errand. It's too risky. I expect zip tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1157 Postby Cerlin » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:52 am

rwfromkansas wrote:Relying on wrap-around is a fool's errand. It's too risky. I expect zip tomorrow.

Agreed. It’s typical for there to be less precipitation than forecasted and it requires too many variables to line up perfectly to even have a dusting.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1158 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:23 am

Taking the 12z FWD sounding and looking at the 12z HREF... things really need to line out fast for DFW and points off to the NE or there could be big trouble.

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1159 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:37 am

5 Day Averages...:double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1160 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:41 am

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