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#1161 Postby Brandon8181 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Brandon8181 wrote:Nam Model seems to be suggesting slightly warmer temperatures across north Texas? However, still seems favorable for sleep and snow. Just hope it doesn't warm up to much.

NAM and GFS runs seem to be continuing to come together on agreement for this system. NAM does keep temperatures slightly warmer across north central Texas; however, still cold enough for winter precip. GFS seems be bringing down slightly colder temperatures then previous runs.

NAM and GFS seem to be all most perfect in agreement as far as targeted precipitation areas.

I feel like snowfall amounts will be greater than what most forecasters are suggesting. I've even found a few in north central Texas suggestings anything from a dusting to 1 inch. Some saying 1 to 3 inches. A few suggested higher amounts.

I feel like the average will be 2-4 inches with isolated areas getting 3-6 inches. I also feel like this low will house a lot of cold air underneath it and temperatures will cool faster than expected. It seems opinions over this winter weather event are spread far apart in what everyone thinks.

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#1162 Postby northtxboy » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:02 am

Brandon8181 wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:Nam Model seems to be suggesting slightly warmer temperatures across north Texas? However, still seems favorable for sleep and snow. Just hope it doesn't warm up to much.

NAM and GFS runs seem to be continuing to come together on agreement for this system. NAM does keep temperatures slightly warmer across north central Texas; however, still cold enough for winter precip. GFS seems be bringing down slightly colder temperatures then previous runs.

NAM and GFS seem to be all most perfect in agreement as far as targeted precipitation areas.

I feel like snowfall amounts will be greater than what most forecasters are suggesting. I've even found a few in north central Texas suggestings anything from a dusting to 1 inch. Some saying 1 to 3 inches. A few suggested higher amounts.
so you think maybe us up here near the red river will get a good amount? The question is will it stick

I feel like the average will be 2-4 inches with isolated areas getting 3-6 inches. I also feel like this low will house a lot of cold air underneath it and temperatures will cool faster than expected. It seems opinions over this winter weather event are spread far apart in what everyone thinks.

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#1163 Postby ludosc » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:04 am

Brandon8181 wrote:The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to NWS products.


I am a relative newb on this site (posting wise anyway)...I joined up last winter...

I must say though, that I find these disclaimers to be kinda funny...In following this site over the last year, it seems like yall are a heck of a lot better at forecasting this stuff than anything that comes out of the NWS...kudos to all of you and thanks for letting us non-weather technical people tag along for the ride...
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#1164 Postby Brandon8181 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:11 am

ludosc wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution icluding storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to NWS products.

I am a relative newb on this site (posting wise anyway)...I joined up last winter...
I must say though, that I find these disclaimers to be kinda funny...In following this site over the last year, it seems like yall are a heck of a lot better at forecasting this stuff than anything that comes out of the NWS...kudos to all of you and thanks for letting us non-weather technical people tag along for the ride...


I think they are kind of funny to. I try and respect the rules of the site and use them when I say anything beyond a "basic opinion."
Honestly though - I'm not all that technical about weather. I've just been studying it since I was 8 or 9. I'm not good on technicalities, but my goodnesss.. I sure enjoy it.

I remember as a child reading books and encylopedias about weather and how to do short term forecast like if the wind was blowing out of so and so direction your likely to get...this, etc. Weather is awesome. I'm just glad I've had the opporunity to learn about it. I'm also glad that I've joined this form, because I learn so much simply by reading what everyone else has to say. It's a great place to communicate about weather.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1165 Postby SouthernMet » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:16 am

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

TXZ091>095-100>107-115>123-129>135-141>148-156>162-174-175-081200-
MONTAGUE-COOKE-GRAYSON-FANNIN-LAMAR-YOUNG-JACK-WISE-DENTON-COLLIN-
HUNT-DELTA-HOPKINS-STEPHENS-PALO PINTO-PARKER-TARRANT-DALLAS-
ROCKWALL-KAUFMAN-VAN ZANDT-RAINS-EASTLAND-ERATH-HOOD-SOMERVELL-
JOHNSON-ELLIS-HENDERSON-COMANCHE-MILLS-HAMILTON-BOSQUE-HILL-
NAVARRO-FREESTONE-ANDERSON-LAMPASAS-CORYELL-BELL-MCLENNAN-FALLS-
LIMESTONE-LEON-MILAM-ROBERTSON-
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

...A CHANCE OF SNOW SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

...COLD WEATHER EXPECTED NEXT WEEK...

AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHWEST
U.S. WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS SATURDAY NIGHT AND
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A CHANCE OF RAIN SATURDAY EVENING
MAINLY SOUTH OF I-20 AND AREA WIDE SUNDAY. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
ACROSS TEXAS SUNDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL AND THE RAIN MAY MIX
WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW NORTH AND EAST OF A JACKSBORO TO HILLSBORO
TO PALESTINE LINE. THE BEST CHANCES OF SNOW WILL BE NORTH OF A
BOWIE TO FORT WORTH TO CANTON LINE...WHERE SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW
IS POSSIBLE. THE EXACT TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL
DETERMINE HOW FAR SOUTH THE SNOW OCCURS AND HOW MUCH SNOW
ACCUMULATES...BUT 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH AND
EAST OF THE BOWIE TO DFW TO CANTON LINE. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES
MAY BE NEEDED FOR THESE LOCATIONS IF CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO
INCREASE.

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO NORTH TEXAS MONDAY.
THE BRISK NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT ALONG WITH COLDER
TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL READINGS IN THE SINGLE
DIGITS AND TEENS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. LOWS ARE EXPECTED
TO BE IN THE UPPER TEENS NORTHWEST TO UPPER 20S SOUTHEAST BOTH
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL ONLY BE IN
THE 30S ACROSS MOST OF NORTH TEXAS. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL
DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS OKLAHOMA MONDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT
APPEARS THAT LIGHT FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH OF A GRAHAM TO
DFW TO CANTON LINE.

THE SNOW FORECAST WILL CONTINUED TO BE FINE-TUNED AS THE EVENT
NEARS AND RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO REMAIN AWARE OF A POSSIBLE WINTER
WEATHER EVENT FOR NORTH TEXAS.


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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1166 Postby Brandon8181 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:22 am

SouthernMet wrote:SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

TXZ091>095-100>107-115>123-129>135-141>148-156>162-174-175-081200-
MONTAGUE-COOKE-GRAYSON-FANNIN-LAMAR-YOUNG-JACK-WISE-DENTON-COLLIN-
HUNT-DELTA-HOPKINS-STEPHENS-PALO PINTO-PARKER-TARRANT-DALLAS-
ROCKWALL-KAUFMAN-VAN ZANDT-RAINS-EASTLAND-ERATH-HOOD-SOMERVELL-
JOHNSON-ELLIS-HENDERSON-COMANCHE-MILLS-HAMILTON-BOSQUE-HILL-
NAVARRO-FREESTONE-ANDERSON-LAMPASAS-CORYELL-BELL-MCLENNAN-FALLS-
LIMESTONE-LEON-MILAM-ROBERTSON-
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

...A CHANCE OF SNOW SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

...COLD WEATHER EXPECTED NEXT WEEK...

AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHWEST
U.S. WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS SATURDAY NIGHT AND
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A CHANCE OF RAIN SATURDAY EVENING
MAINLY SOUTH OF I-20 AND AREA WIDE SUNDAY. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
ACROSS TEXAS SUNDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL AND THE RAIN MAY MIX
WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW NORTH AND EAST OF A JACKSBORO TO HILLSBORO
TO PALESTINE LINE. THE BEST CHANCES OF SNOW WILL BE NORTH OF A
BOWIE TO FORT WORTH TO CANTON LINE...WHERE SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW
IS POSSIBLE. THE EXACT TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL
DETERMINE HOW FAR SOUTH THE SNOW OCCURS AND HOW MUCH SNOW
ACCUMULATES...BUT 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH AND
EAST OF THE BOWIE TO DFW TO CANTON LINE. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES
MAY BE NEEDED FOR THESE LOCATIONS IF CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO
INCREASE.

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO NORTH TEXAS MONDAY.
THE BRISK NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT ALONG WITH COLDER
TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL READINGS IN THE SINGLE
DIGITS AND TEENS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. LOWS ARE EXPECTED
TO BE IN THE UPPER TEENS NORTHWEST TO UPPER 20S SOUTHEAST BOTH
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL ONLY BE IN
THE 30S ACROSS MOST OF NORTH TEXAS. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL
DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS OKLAHOMA MONDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT
APPEARS THAT LIGHT FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH OF A GRAHAM TO
DFW TO CANTON LINE.

THE SNOW FORECAST WILL CONTINUED TO BE FINE-TUNED AS THE EVENT
NEARS AND RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO REMAIN AWARE OF A POSSIBLE WINTER
WEATHER EVENT FOR NORTH TEXAS.
$$


Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?
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#1167 Postby downsouthman1 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:26 am

Brandon8181 wrote:
SouthernMet wrote:SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

TXZ091>095-100>107-115>123-129>135-141>148-156>162-174-175-081200-
MONTAGUE-COOKE-GRAYSON-FANNIN-LAMAR-YOUNG-JACK-WISE-DENTON-COLLIN-
HUNT-DELTA-HOPKINS-STEPHENS-PALO PINTO-PARKER-TARRANT-DALLAS-
ROCKWALL-KAUFMAN-VAN ZANDT-RAINS-EASTLAND-ERATH-HOOD-SOMERVELL-
JOHNSON-ELLIS-HENDERSON-COMANCHE-MILLS-HAMILTON-BOSQUE-HILL-
NAVARRO-FREESTONE-ANDERSON-LAMPASAS-CORYELL-BELL-MCLENNAN-FALLS-
LIMESTONE-LEON-MILAM-ROBERTSON-
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

...A CHANCE OF SNOW SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

...COLD WEATHER EXPECTED NEXT WEEK...

AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHWEST
U.S. WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS SATURDAY NIGHT AND
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A CHANCE OF RAIN SATURDAY EVENING
MAINLY SOUTH OF I-20 AND AREA WIDE SUNDAY. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
ACROSS TEXAS SUNDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL AND THE RAIN MAY MIX
WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW NORTH AND EAST OF A JACKSBORO TO HILLSBORO
TO PALESTINE LINE. THE BEST CHANCES OF SNOW WILL BE NORTH OF A
BOWIE TO FORT WORTH TO CANTON LINE...WHERE SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW
IS POSSIBLE. THE EXACT TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL
DETERMINE HOW FAR SOUTH THE SNOW OCCURS AND HOW MUCH SNOW
ACCUMULATES...BUT 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH AND
EAST OF THE BOWIE TO DFW TO CANTON LINE. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES
MAY BE NEEDED FOR THESE LOCATIONS IF CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO
INCREASE.

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO NORTH TEXAS MONDAY.
THE BRISK NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT ALONG WITH COLDER
TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL READINGS IN THE SINGLE
DIGITS AND TEENS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. LOWS ARE EXPECTED
TO BE IN THE UPPER TEENS NORTHWEST TO UPPER 20S SOUTHEAST BOTH
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL ONLY BE IN
THE 30S ACROSS MOST OF NORTH TEXAS. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL
DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS OKLAHOMA MONDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT
APPEARS THAT LIGHT FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH OF A GRAHAM TO
DFW TO CANTON LINE.

THE SNOW FORECAST WILL CONTINUED TO BE FINE-TUNED AS THE EVENT
NEARS AND RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO REMAIN AWARE OF A POSSIBLE WINTER
WEATHER EVENT FOR NORTH TEXAS.
$$


Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?


This just shows that NWS does not wanna go out on a limb. They basically want to wait until the snow starts & then forecast accumulations.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1168 Postby Brandon8181 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:34 am

downsouthman1 wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:
SouthernMet wrote:SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

TXZ091>095-100>107-115>123-129>135-141>148-156>162-174-175-081200-
MONTAGUE-COOKE-GRAYSON-FANNIN-LAMAR-YOUNG-JACK-WISE-DENTON-COLLIN-
HUNT-DELTA-HOPKINS-STEPHENS-PALO PINTO-PARKER-TARRANT-DALLAS-
ROCKWALL-KAUFMAN-VAN ZANDT-RAINS-EASTLAND-ERATH-HOOD-SOMERVELL-
JOHNSON-ELLIS-HENDERSON-COMANCHE-MILLS-HAMILTON-BOSQUE-HILL-
NAVARRO-FREESTONE-ANDERSON-LAMPASAS-CORYELL-BELL-MCLENNAN-FALLS-
LIMESTONE-LEON-MILAM-ROBERTSON-
1105 PM CST FRI JAN 7 2011

...A CHANCE OF SNOW SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

...COLD WEATHER EXPECTED NEXT WEEK...

AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM CURRENTLY OVER THE SOUTHWEST
U.S. WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PLAINS SATURDAY NIGHT AND
SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING A CHANCE OF RAIN SATURDAY EVENING
MAINLY SOUTH OF I-20 AND AREA WIDE SUNDAY. AS THIS SYSTEM MOVES
ACROSS TEXAS SUNDAY...TEMPERATURES WILL COOL AND THE RAIN MAY MIX
WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW NORTH AND EAST OF A JACKSBORO TO HILLSBORO
TO PALESTINE LINE. THE BEST CHANCES OF SNOW WILL BE NORTH OF A
BOWIE TO FORT WORTH TO CANTON LINE...WHERE SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW
IS POSSIBLE. THE EXACT TRACK OF THE UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM WILL
DETERMINE HOW FAR SOUTH THE SNOW OCCURS AND HOW MUCH SNOW
ACCUMULATES...BUT 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH AND
EAST OF THE BOWIE TO DFW TO CANTON LINE. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES
MAY BE NEEDED FOR THESE LOCATIONS IF CONFIDENCE CONTINUES TO
INCREASE.

AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO NORTH TEXAS MONDAY.
THE BRISK NORTHERLY WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT ALONG WITH COLDER
TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN WIND CHILL READINGS IN THE SINGLE
DIGITS AND TEENS TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. LOWS ARE EXPECTED
TO BE IN THE UPPER TEENS NORTHWEST TO UPPER 20S SOUTHEAST BOTH
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOON HIGHS WILL ONLY BE IN
THE 30S ACROSS MOST OF NORTH TEXAS. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL
DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS OKLAHOMA MONDAY. AT THIS TIME...IT
APPEARS THAT LIGHT FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE NORTH OF A GRAHAM TO
DFW TO CANTON LINE.

THE SNOW FORECAST WILL CONTINUED TO BE FINE-TUNED AS THE EVENT
NEARS AND RESIDENTS ARE URGED TO REMAIN AWARE OF A POSSIBLE WINTER
WEATHER EVENT FOR NORTH TEXAS.
$$

Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?

This just shows that NWS does not wanna go out on a limb. They basically want to wait until the snow starts & then forecast accumulations.


Typical, I remember more than once last year when they forecasted a couple of inches and then they sky fell...then they were like... well uhm...Humpty dumpty sat on a wall....etc :)

Weather in north Texas is very difficult to predict though.
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#1169 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:36 am

Canadian is still supporting snow in NTX, though better in northeast TX.
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#1170 Postby johnbasham » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:38 am

downsouthman1 wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:
Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?


This just shows that NWS does not wanna go out on a limb. They basically want to wait until the snow starts & then forecast accumulations.


Well they really have two (or three) more model runs before they truly need to pull the trigger on any Winter Weather Advisory or Winter Storm Watch. So considering we are right on the transition line and there is still disagreement in the models on exactly what the column temperatures will be in North Texas I can't blame them.

If I didn't HAVE to issue a Sunday Forecast before 5pm today (Friday) I would not have. My problem is decision makers were getting antsy and ready to leave the office. For that reason I had to use our "best-guess" data at the time for Texas.

NWS has a clear set of guidelines they must reach before issuing any advisories, watches, or warnings. At this time they have not met those guidelines in their forecasts.... But they likely will by tomorrow noon.

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#1171 Postby Brandon8181 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:46 am

johnbasham wrote:
downsouthman1 wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:
Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?


This just shows that NWS does not wanna go out on a limb. They basically want to wait until the snow starts & then forecast accumulations.


Well they really have two (or three) more model runs before they truly need to pull the trigger on any Winter Weather Advisory or Winter Storm Watch. So considering we are right on the transition line and there is still disagreement in the models on exactly what the column temperatures will be in North Texas I can't blame them.

If I didn't HAVE to issue a Sunday Forecast before 5pm today (Friday) I would not have. My problem is decision makers were getting antsy and ready to leave the office. For that reason I had to use our "best-guess" data at the time for Texas.

NWS has a clear set of guidelines they must reach before issuing any advisories, watches, or warnings. At this time they have not met those guidelines in their forecasts.... But they likely will by tomorrow noon.

Basham


In your professional opinion do you feel like the far northern part of Texas will be more likely advisary or watch criteria?
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1172 Postby downsouthman1 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:47 am

johnbasham wrote:
downsouthman1 wrote:
Brandon8181 wrote:
Yup, I read that. It sounds almost exactly the same as their 3:37 SWS. Seems like they still may have a lot of uncertainty..? Any thoughts?


This just shows that NWS does not wanna go out on a limb. They basically want to wait until the snow starts & then forecast accumulations.


Well they really have two (or three) more model runs before they truly need to pull the trigger on any Winter Weather Advisory or Winter Storm Watch. So considering we are right on the transition line and there is still disagreement in the models on exactly what the column temperatures will be in North Texas I can't blame them.

If I didn't HAVE to issue a Sunday Forecast before 5pm today (Friday) I would not have. My problem is decision makers were getting antsy and ready to leave the office. For that reason I had to use our "best-guess" data at the time for Texas.

NWS has a clear set of guidelines they must reach before issuing any advisories, watches, or warnings. At this time they have not met those guidelines in their forecasts.... But they likely will by tomorrow noon.

Basham

John, I think your forecast is great. I would say that by tomorrow it'll probably start looking like you called it 1st. But I agree with you that NWS does not have to pull the trigger right now, & hence, they haven't & won't. They can really technically wait until Sunday's 4AM forecast but that'd be pushing it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1173 Postby johnbasham » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:58 am

I'll leave everyone one last set of data to ponder as I turn in for the night:

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Interesting atmospheric profile with temps and precip from Central Texas to North Texas Sunday (according to GFS)

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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1174 Postby Snowman67 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:16 am

What happened to all that cold weather that was supposed to come down after next weeks cold front? Seems like it's getting bottled up in Canada. Just a few days ago the models showed it moving south.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1175 Postby downsouthman1 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:24 am

Snowman67 wrote:What happened to all that cold weather that was supposed to come down after next weeks cold front? Seems like it's getting bottled up in Canada. Just a few days ago the models showed it moving south.

18-hr old Long-range 06Z GFS still shows it. Probably temps around 40 degrees or so. Long-range Models are always dangerous to believe anyway.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1176 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:25 am

00z EURO much stronger than the 12z run and more in line with the past 3 runs of the GFS and NAM:

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#1177 Postby Texas2Florida » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:44 am

Brandon8181 wrote:Nam Model seems to be suggesting slightly warmer temperatures across north Texas? However, still seems favorable for sleep and snow. Just hope it doesn't warm up to much.


Snow definitely makes me want to stay in and sleep, should be a nice Sunday and Monday since they are my days off. :P

In seriousness though, I know DFW airport is hoping for the best, bracing for the worst. 1 inch of frozen anything puts it at a standstil.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1178 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:44 am

Tonight's model suite consensus points to northeast Texas for heavy snow. NCT will be at the western edge so a little jog this way would certainly help.

Regarding the long term cold. Appears La Nada is going to have a say in things for awhile sending storms crashing into the northeast Pacific. This would eject milder Pacific air across the southern tier of the country bottling up the cold near the Canadian border. I don't see a true mechanism to push it all down with the latest model output yet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1179 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:47 am

Ntxw wrote:Tonight's model suite consensus points to northeast Texas for heavy snow. NCT will be at the western edge so a little jog this way would certainly help.


I'm pretty impressed with the EURO's 0z run. It brings the 0C line way far south, especially in TX. Hopefully you guys will have moisture to go along with it! The low is a good deal stronger as well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#1180 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:50 am

MississippiWx wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Tonight's model suite consensus points to northeast Texas for heavy snow. NCT will be at the western edge so a little jog this way would certainly help.


I'm pretty impressed with the EURO's 0z run. It brings the 0C line way far south, especially in TX. Hopefully you guys will have moisture to go along with it! The low is a good deal stronger as well.


The Euro is actually warmer than it's previous runs. 540 thickness doesn't even go south beyond I-20 anywhere in the south for the duration of the storm which isn't a good thing aloft.
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