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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1161 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:19 pm

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS wants to shunt a lot of the cold to the east, Euro wants to split it way out west. Which now :wink:?

Though the Euro crashes it down anyway, weight. In line with CMC.


sub 510s showing up in SW Montana now, even more extreme than yesterday's run... :double: :double:
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-deterministic/westzoomed/z500_anom/1704369600/1705147200-CnWXFjQrfGM.png
https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-deterministic/montana/apparent_temperature_f/1704369600/1705147200-US053p3IAAE.png


https://i.imgur.com/W3WIyNO.png

Flip this map upside down and that's what it normally should be.

Look at the blocking up top. My goodness.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1162 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:37 pm

Individual op run maps are fun and all but are pretty much worthless. I like the 5-day anomaly maps of the ensembles and there has been a pretty intriguing 24-hr change on the GEFS.

You can see higher heights over Greenland and lower heights over the Baja. These types of trends are more important than run to run changes on the ops. Also, some minor changes in the orientation of the Carabbien ridge.

12z Yesterday

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12z Today

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1163 Postby Brent » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:52 pm

TWC has me near single digits already next weekend and the apps are usually too warm :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1164 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:00 pm

bubba hoptep like that 12z GEFS run, maybe allows for some energy from the baja to meet up with arctic air, better setup for a southern winter storm
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1165 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:04 pm

wxman57 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:I would be very surprised if Houston only sees a light freeze during this upcoming cold event. The projected pattern screams hard freeze, possibly down to the coast. I'm afraid significant cold is coming, and your wall won't be able to stop it.


You're saying 25F or colder by Jan 15th? I'd say possibly upper 20s at IAH. Not talking about late January or February.



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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1166 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:05 pm

Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:I would be very surprised if Houston only sees a light freeze during this upcoming cold event. The projected pattern screams hard freeze, possibly down to the coast. I'm afraid significant cold is coming, and your wall won't be able to stop it.


You're saying 25F or colder by Jan 15th? I'd say possibly upper 20s at IAH. Not talking about late January or February.


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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1167 Postby WacoWx » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:31 pm

Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1168 Postby JayDT » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:33 pm

WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.


Yup, just noticed that as well. It’s getting more interesting :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1169 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:34 pm

WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.

That's a high chance this far out. Hopefully that continues to rise.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1170 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:35 pm

Canadian Ensemble my goodness. Lol. While I get it has a cold bias associated with it typically (particularly the OP), but as I believe Ntxw mentioned prior, the ensemble has done a good job in the past within the medium/long range as it relates to arctic airmasses. That 12z however is off the chart for an ensemble run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1171 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:48 pm

WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.

What does OKC look like?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1172 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:50 pm

WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.


What app are you using?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1173 Postby Brent » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:55 pm

One of our TV mets just said HIGHS could be in the teens :froze: :eek: :eek: :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1174 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:59 pm

Brent wrote:One of our TV mets just said HIGHS could be in the teens :froze: :eek: :eek: :cold:

What about the lows? :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1175 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:01 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:One of our TV mets just said HIGHS could be in the teens :froze: :eek: :eek: :cold:

What about the lows? :eek:


You don't want to know, if you have to ask you can't handle it. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1176 Postby Brent » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:03 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Brent wrote:One of our TV mets just said HIGHS could be in the teens :froze: :eek: :eek: :cold:

What about the lows? :eek:


No comment so far :lol: I think teens for highs is enough for now
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1177 Postby WacoWx » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:12 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.


What app are you using?


The iPhone app that comes with the phone.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1178 Postby WacoWx » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:14 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
WacoWx wrote:Snow showing up for the first time on my weather app for Dallas Tuesday. 45% chance.

What does OKC look like?


35% chance but colder temps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1179 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:20 pm

Does any have the 12z eps they can post for the 10-15 day timeframe? Thanks in advance. Temp anomalies and 2m temperature
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#1180 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:26 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Individual op run maps are fun and all but are pretty much worthless. I like the 5-day anomaly maps of the ensembles and there has been a pretty intriguing 24-hr change on the GEFS.

You can see higher heights over Greenland and lower heights over the Baja. These types of trends are more important than run to run changes on the ops. Also, some minor changes in the orientation of the Carabbien ridge.

12z Yesterday

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2024010312/gfs-ens_z500aNormMean_namer_10.png

12z Today

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2024010412/gfs-ens_z500aNormMean_namer_9.png


Not sure if I'd say worthless...in certain instances, it can be a decent indicator of the potential for a pattern to go to the extremes. With the almost 4 std deviation ULL forecast to move thru the southern plains within the 5 day time frame, the downstream implications for a storm of that magnitude to crash into the Greenland Block and pump that ridge also to the extreme doesn't seem too far fetched. And once you pump a Greenland ridge of that magnitude, chaos could ensue. Anomalous storms are starting to show up within the short range guidance, this isn't 384 hr fantasy land anymore.
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