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#1341 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:59 pm

TT-SEA wrote:Well... the 00Z run of the ETA looks much drier after tomorrow night.

Definitely a good shot of rain (mountain snow) tomorrow. Lingering showers on Saturday with some sun breaks close to the Puget Sound. Then a very weak surface low moves into Oregon on Sunday. The ETA is totally dry during the day Sunday but there will probably be a few showers and a few sun breaks and most places should make it past 40 degrees. It looks like California gets the most precipitation with the Sunday system.

A cool night on Sunday night... close to normal in the low 30's. Maybe some upper 20's if skies clear. Radiational cooling... NOT (I repeat NOT) an arctic blast.

Monday should be clear and cool... sunglasses and sweaters as Walter Kelley like to say on Q13. Should be a spectacular day though with new snow in the mountains to look at with the clear skies.



How is this a personal attack... or demeaning... or venegeful in any way??

Just reporting what the latest ETA shows.
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#1342 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:06 pm

Wizzard... you may be right and you may be wrong about this system. But when you are so obsessed with snow... you lose credibility. You cannot force Mother Nature to do what you want. Yet it can feel like that at times. You only see what you want. That is why you become... as you put it... "unstable". If it does not happen the way you want... you are in disbelief. How could that happen?? You ignore any evidence that shows you there is no snow coming.

We can all out-predict the NWS sometimes.

But you attack if someone has the opposite opinion. That is frustrating.
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#1343 Postby R-Dub » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:11 pm

This is off topic, but currently on "The National Geographic Channel" is a show called "Air Emergencys" and are covering the Alaska Air Flight 261 Crash on 1/31/00 The flight was from Purto viarta (sp) to San Fransico, then on to Seattle.
This crash effected me personally, I flew home that day from Burbank CA on an Alaska airlines MD-80. I had just stepped in my door at home when I saw the breaking news on TV. I was in shock for a few days thinking, what if they had used that plane for my flight.
I hope nobody forgets the people that died on that day.

2/3/05 LK Goodwin WA
8:04:11 PM CURRENT
Cloudy
Temperature (ºF) 47.9
Humidity (%) 89.0
Wind (mph) WNW 0.0
Daily Rain (") 0.00
Pressure ("Hg) 30.16
Dew Point: 44.8 ºF
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#1344 Postby andycottle » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:14 pm

Randy...you mentioned about the small quake this morning. I was asleep, so I did not feel it...nor any tiny after shocks that may have happened. As for 96 quake....Me and my parents felt that one for sure! Think the epicenter was in Duvall. It was in the late evening like you said. I had just gotten out of the shower..oohhh...5min or so before it happened. And was in the bathroom when it finally did happen. I remember the noise as a loud rumbling/roar kind of sound.....sort of like a real low flying jet, but louder. But after my brain realized what had just occured...it kind of scared me bit. But other than that, I was fine and so was everyone eles. And think there was small after shock the next day...though can`t really remember. -- Andy
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#1345 Postby ~Brennan~ » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:18 pm

Why would you think Snow Wizzard is jumping on you? He really isn't, what it seems like is that you are jumping on everything he says now and saying he needs to calm down or whatever... You just don't understand some things and you are turning into an ANTI-SNOWWIZZARD... He isn't asking for a rediculous 24 inch snowfall forecast... What you are doing is pretty much pasting the NWS forecast back on here. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE THIS WEEKEND A CHANCE?
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#1346 Postby andycottle » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:26 pm

Hi folks. I took a look at todays 18z GFS, along with the Candain Global model and as well as the ECMWF....and they all show a some what of a big of high pressure over us for the 8th through about 11th(Friday evening). So it looks like we should enjoy for dry and sunny or partly skies and temps in the mid-upper 50`s through this time period.

Oh and, if anybody cares to come down to the Molbaks gardening center(thats where I work) here in the center of Woodinville...they LOTS of very colorful winter primroses, pansys, and other winter flowers to go in your gardens right now. So feel free to come on down!

-- Andy
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#1347 Postby ~Brennan~ » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:30 pm

Hey Also TT, do you want to change your forecast of temps in the upper 50's and lower 60's for mid and late next week? because it doesn't look like it will make it out of the 40's... And like snow wizz said, with each run the RIdge sort of backed away... hmmm what did you say about that? you told him not to deny the facts? well i don't get that because it looks like it is completely backing off now... It still looks like there will be fraser outflow by tuesday which with CLEAR skies... no weather.... COLD
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#1348 Postby R-Dub » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:38 pm

andycottle wrote:Hi folks. I took a look at todays 18z GFS, along with the Candain Global model and as well as the ECMWF....and they all show a some what of a big of high pressure over us for the 8th through about 11th(Friday evening). So it looks like we should enjoy for dry and sunny or partly skies and temps in the mid-upper 50`s through this time period.

Oh and, if anybody cares to come down to the Molbaks gardening center(thats where I work) here in the center of Woodinville...they LOTS of very colorful winter primroses, pansys, and other winter flowers to go in your gardens right now. So feel free to come on down!

-- Andy


Molbaks is one of (if not the best) gardening center nursery in WA State!!!
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#1349 Postby andycottle » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:43 pm

Oh so you have been there, Randy? They really do have a lot nice plants there..! -- Andy
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#1350 Postby ~Brennan~ » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:45 pm

Yeah cool except we will be under a cool and dry pattern next week with temps in the mid 40's if not colder in some places, maybe a tad warmer. Pretty much normal or below normal temps for the next week followed by who knows whatl... We could be in for a big surprise by the time mid february rolls around, and who knows, maybe even this weekend. and NO RIDGE NEXT WEEK.
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#1351 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:51 pm

The latest 00Z run of the GFS for next Thursday (2/10). This has been the same day I have always shown. That would be a ridge. Southerly flow.

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#1352 Postby andrewr » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:54 pm

I hope the GFS is right and that by the end of next week and next weekend we will be getting into a more normal pattern. May not be good for lowland snow, but the mountains will love it.
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#1353 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:56 pm

Those wild and crazy guys at the Portland NWS tonight...

.LONG TERM...NO CHANGES. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION FOLLOWS... THE UPPER LOW/TROUGH THAT MODELS CARVED OUT OVER THE PACIFIC NW SUNDAY LOOKS LIKE IT WILL SLIDE SE MONDAY WITH SHOWERS TAPERING OFF FROM THE N. THEN MODELS IN GOOD AGREEMENT REBUILDING THE PERSISTENT E PACIFIC UPPER RIDGE THE REST OF NEXT WEEK FOR A RETURN TO DRY WEATHER WITH UNSEASONABLY WARM HIGH TEMPERATURES AND LATE NIGHT AND MORNING FOG. BOHL


What in the hell are they looking at??
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#1354 Postby ~Brennan~ » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:03 am

You do realize there won't be a ridge at any time in the next week according to the 0z right TT? what do you mean there will be southewesterly flow ? there won't be any flow, it will just be DEAD
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#1355 Postby ~Brennan~ » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:05 am

Light northerly flow looks likely throughout the week... No southwesterly though...
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#1356 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:11 am

Are you saying this is northerly flow??

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Thats next Thursday... thats a ridge... thats southerly or southeasterly flow.


So just for clarification... this is not a ridge??????

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#1357 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:13 am

That southerly flow will mix up the atmosphere.

That southerly flow will bring much warmer weather.

We have seen this exact pattern for the last three weeks. I know what it brings.

The green grass and flowers blooming can attest to that.
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#1358 Postby AnthonyC » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:15 am

Wow, I'm gone for an hour and a half and this thread has turned into personal attacks. We all need to chill and relax. People have different opinions...the good thing about a democracy is our ability to express our own opinions and nobody can do anything about it.

Snow_Wizzard and TT-SEA need to come to some sort of neutrality. This is ridiculous...me and Brennan are the only two who can act like high schoolers!! lol. Just chill.

I like this weekend because almost anything can happen...and thus it should satisfy anyone. For me, it looks great for the mountains...for Snow_Wizzard there's the possibility of lowland snow somewhere...for TT-SEA another ridge begins to develop next week. So everyone enjoy this broad variety of weather...and CHILL!! I hope to wake up tomorrow morning and see all this bickering stopped. Goodnite to all!!

Anthony
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#1359 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:19 am

NWS refers to the surface low scenario and a chance of snow in the usual lowland spots near the Olympic Mountains.

I believe the surface low on Sunday will slide south offshore and leave Western Washington high and dry.

Then its a warmer and eventually wetter pattern by next weekend.

DO NOT FORGET MY LONG RANGE PREDICTION... MARCH IS GOING TO BE WILD. TONS OF MOUNTAIN SNOW, LOTS OF RAIN, LOTS OF WIND AND MAYBE EVEN A LOWLAND SNOWSTORM
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#1360 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:20 am

I am being serious. We are due for a wild month and history points towards March.

I wrote it big so no one will accuse me of back tracking next month. Wild weather IS coming.
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