Texas Winter 2017-2018

Winter Weather Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22787
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1461 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:05 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Just caught up driving all day to SA and back. You guys need to reeeaaally stay calm with the precip maps. Heck, models couldnt get the last storm right till 36 hours out. Lets just be happy we see the pattern looking favorable at the time. Ive seen them disappear even at this stage so still a bit nervous.

You guys keep mentioning the energy near Hawaii being important, i agree. The 12Z seemed strange to me since the trough was weak but the high to its west was stronger in the W Pac. I thought that was strange.

The Euro seemed to have a strong W Pac high but the trough is weak, like the energy was split. I dont know, again, so far out. Almost too early to breakdown.


The low over Hawaii is a part of the -EPO omega block. Usually is there when you have intense ridging in Alaska. That's how you get the Alaskan ridge to really go off, heat is being pumped via that low east of it, tropics to polar. Intensification of the East Asian Jet to Hawaii. When the low is east near the west coast we torch. When the low is back towards Hawaii you get -EPO.

Image
3 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.

  Help support Storm2K!
Help Support Storm2K

User avatar
starsfan65
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 704
Age: 47
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:18 pm
Location: Garland,Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1462 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:27 pm

Looks like this cold weather is certain.
0 likes   

User avatar
ThunderSleetDreams
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1477
Age: 43
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:42 pm
Location: S of Weimar, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1463 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:37 pm

Ntxw wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Just caught up driving all day to SA and back. You guys need to reeeaaally stay calm with the precip maps. Heck, models couldnt get the last storm right till 36 hours out. Lets just be happy we see the pattern looking favorable at the time. Ive seen them disappear even at this stage so still a bit nervous.

You guys keep mentioning the energy near Hawaii being important, i agree. The 12Z seemed strange to me since the trough was weak but the high to its west was stronger in the W Pac. I thought that was strange.

The Euro seemed to have a strong W Pac high but the trough is weak, like the energy was split. I dont know, again, so far out. Almost too early to breakdown.


The low over Hawaii is a part of the -EPO omega block. Usually is there when you have intense ridging in Alaska. That's how you get the Alaskan ridge to really go off, heat is being pumped via that low east of it, tropics to polar. Intensification of the East Asian Jet to Hawaii. When the low is east near the west coast we torch. When the low is back towards Hawaii you get -EPO.

http://i68.tinypic.com/34ycqom.png


That jet extension and subsequent EPO block is gorgeous.
2 likes   
#NeverSummer

I hibernate when it gets above 75 degrees!

User avatar
Texas Snow
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 784
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:06 pm
Location: N. Dallas & Cedar Creek Lake

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1464 Postby Texas Snow » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:49 pm

No freezes for at least 7 days (in DFW and south at least) and yet there are 82 guests on a seasonably warm December night. Hmmm, I wonder if word is spreading about some sort of weather potential? 8-)
3 likes   
"Don't let wishcastin get in the way of your forecastin"

Image

User avatar
starsfan65
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 704
Age: 47
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:18 pm
Location: Garland,Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1465 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:52 pm

Texas Snow wrote:No freezes for at least 7 days (in DFW and south at least) and yet there 75 guests. Hmmm, I wonder if word is spreading about some sort of weather potential? 8-)
Yes there is. We all talking about the possibly of very cold weather and a chance of winter precip during the Christmas holidays.
1 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38095
Age: 37
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1466 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:53 pm

Texas Snow wrote:No freezes for at least 7 days (in DFW and south at least) and yet there are 82 guests on a seasonably warm December night. Hmmm, I wonder if word is spreading about some sort of weather potential? 8-)


seen a lot of posts on social media already

also a couple of the weather segments on the news they did mention "a bigger front towards Christmas" as they went off
1 likes   
#neversummer

User avatar
gboudx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4080
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:39 pm
Location: Rockwall, Tx but from Harvey, La

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1467 Postby gboudx » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:57 pm

starsfan65 wrote:Looks like this cold weather is certain.


Now you did it. :cheesy:
2 likes   

User avatar
starsfan65
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 704
Age: 47
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:18 pm
Location: Garland,Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1468 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:58 pm

Brent wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:No freezes for at least 7 days (in DFW and south at least) and yet there are 82 guests on a seasonably warm December night. Hmmm, I wonder if word is spreading about some sort of weather potential? 8-)


seen a lot of posts on social media already

also a couple of the weather segments on the news they did mention "a bigger front towards Christmas" as they went off
I can't wait for the new 0z run of the GFS.
0 likes   

User avatar
TeamPlayersBlue
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3445
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:44 am
Location: Denver/Applewood, CO

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1469 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:59 pm

Yes, the low is crucial. So many factors into the dynamics of everything. Goes back to the High in the W Pac and the Siberian low. Everything. I love it.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
starsfan65
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 704
Age: 47
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:18 pm
Location: Garland,Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1470 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:00 pm

gboudx wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:Looks like this cold weather is certain.


Now you did it. :cheesy:
That is a fact. The last 16 runs of the GFS has shown the cold weather happening during the Christmas Holidays.
0 likes   

User avatar
ThunderSleetDreams
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1477
Age: 43
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:42 pm
Location: S of Weimar, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1471 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:46 pm

never mind, wrong run
0 likes   
#NeverSummer

I hibernate when it gets above 75 degrees!

orangeblood
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3714
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:14 pm
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1472 Postby orangeblood » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:59 pm

Ntxw wrote:500mb CPC super-ensemble analog (ENS) 1983 as top analog

Image



Plotted surface temps of the top 5 analogs dates listed above...I think it's safe to say, we'll have some below normal temps in a little over a week :wink:

Image
3 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38095
Age: 37
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1473 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:13 pm

orangeblood wrote:Plotted surface temps of the top 5 analogs dates listed above...I think it's safe to say, we'll have some below normal temps in a little over a week :wink:



lot of days Dallas didn't get above freezing on those analogs even taking out the king of cold 1983(when several days didnt even see the 20s)
0 likes   
#neversummer

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22787
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1474 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:16 pm

Yeah, at minimum we should see at least what we saw last January during cold snap. Needless to say delivery pattern coming.
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


User avatar
EnnisTx
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 896
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:06 pm
Location: Albany, Texas
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1475 Postby EnnisTx » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:32 pm

Wow been away almost all day and this thread has already took off.

I'm like all the guest, I had a massive sinus surgery and am miserable, but I can't pull myself away, pain bleeding and all. Smh. :crying:
0 likes   

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22787
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1476 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:33 pm

GFS looks like it's been trending towards sending a winter storm the weekend before Christmas

Image
0 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


User avatar
South Texas Storms
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 4229
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1477 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:33 pm

0z GFS looks to be coming in much closer to the 12z Euro so far. Deep trough digging out west.
0 likes   

User avatar
missygirl810
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 154
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:07 pm
Location: Celeste TX Hunt County Fannin Co line

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1478 Postby missygirl810 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:34 pm

EnnisTx wrote:Wow been away almost all day and this thread has already took off.

I'm like all the guest, I had a massive sinus surgery and am miserable, but I can't pull myself away, pain bleeding and all. Smh. :crying:



Feel better soon!!!
2 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38095
Age: 37
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1479 Postby Brent » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:35 pm

Winter Storm north and west of DFW at 216... cold air flooding in... this is next Friday Night
1 likes   
#neversummer

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22787
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1480 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:36 pm

Brent wrote:Winter Storm north and west of DFW at 216... cold air flooding in... this is next Friday Night


This run will be big on the winter storm, negative tilt trough coming out.
1 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K



Return to “Winter Weather”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests