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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1761 Postby Cerlin » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:52 pm

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Ntxw wrote:One thing I'd like to point out is that the GFS is still consistently the warm outlier even to the FV3.


18z GEFS caves to the Euro, solid mean 1-2 inches of snow across North Texas into the Hill Country (with some much heavier individual members....would expect Ops to beginning trending towards Euro within the next few runs!!!!

Have any visuals for these members? Or know where i can find them?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1762 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:13 pm

GEFS still has a long way to go

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1763 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:29 pm

This must be strictly a NE TX chance. My forecast has partly sunny on Wednesday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1764 Postby orangeblood » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Brent wrote:GEFS still has a long way to go

http://i65.tinypic.com/w8kffq.jpg


Not sure how that site is depicting its data but the paid site I look at doesn’t look anything close to that (18 of 22 members showing some sort of accumulation across North Central Texas)...moisture is there on the 18Z GEFS and so is the frozen precipitation it appears, pretty drastic trend from previous runs
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1765 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:43 pm

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Brent wrote:GEFS still has a long way to go

http://i65.tinypic.com/w8kffq.jpg


Not sure how that site is depicting its data but the paid site I look at doesn’t look anything close to that (18 of 22 members showing some sort of accumulation across North Central Texas)...moisture is there on the 18Z GEFS and so is the frozen precipitation it appears, pretty drastic trend from previous runs


Now this does look somewhat better but yeah I'm not sure because theres a mean map that looks way better lol

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1766 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:31 pm

Looking at the meteograms from the 18z GEFS, it looks like about half the members show precipitation at DFW airport while the GFS and FV3 are bone dry.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1767 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:36 pm

21z SREF is interesting with some of the members bringing precipitation into DFW as early as 12z on the 2nd (end of the run). Also, some members have temps in the low 20s.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1768 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:42 pm

0z NAM as far as it gets for the time frame looks like a major storm in the works, on the run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1769 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:50 pm

Just a wee bit of difference between the American models:

00z 12k NAM - Bam!

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18z GFS - a lot weaker

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18z FV3 - ????

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1770 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:52 pm

00z 12k NAM just getting started, this would be a huge TX Winter Storm, if it went out to 102hrs

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1771 Postby orangeblood » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:52 pm

Ntxw wrote:0z NAM as far as it gets for the time frame looks like a major storm in the works, on the run.


As is typically expected...models going towards KING EURO
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1772 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:56 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1773 Postby Jarodm12 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:58 pm

OMG OMG OMG! I've b en watching the models and I haven't said anything but this is starting to look legit !I'm in Durant I can't wait ! With temps in the 20s everything that falls will stick! Is this really happening ? WSW tomorrow? This ce out of no where , I hope the rest of the winter is like this because we've got about 10 weeks left ! Stay frosty everyone!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1774 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:10 pm

Predicting what the GFS will do is always a fools errand but here goes, it caves to the Euro at 00z. Then we will see FWD introduce winter mix into the grids with the overnight packages, if the Euro holds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1775 Postby Jarodm12 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:12 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Predicting what the GFS will do is always a fools errand but here goes, it caves to the Euro at 00z. Then we will see FWD introduce winter mix into the grids with the overnight packages, if the Euro holds.


What's the likelihood the euro would totally change course this close to the event?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1776 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:17 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Predicting what the GFS will do is always a fools errand but here goes, it caves to the Euro at 00z. Then we will see FWD introduce winter mix into the grids with the overnight packages, if the Euro holds.


I'll make a similar guess and I think the GFS will cave. If not tonight it will at least take a step to the Euro. You don't bet against Euro/Ukmet combo.

As for the Euro there is still room there for more improvements towards a more impactful event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1777 Postby Jarodm12 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:21 pm

NTXW which way does the euro seem to be trending ?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1778 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:25 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:NTXW which way does the euro seem to be trending ?


The past several days have trended more towards a sig event.

One thing I am starting to see is if the storm may create more overrunning than anticipated well ahead of its passage while we have below freezing surface temperatures.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1779 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:28 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Predicting what the GFS will do is always a fools errand but here goes, it caves to the Euro at 00z. Then we will see FWD introduce winter mix into the grids with the overnight packages, if the Euro holds.


What's the likelihood the euro would totally change course this close to the event?


Nothing is a lock at this range. I've made a few post highlighting some of the smaller differences in the models and how they impact the outcome. There are still a lot of Euro EPS members that show no storm. Usually, at this range we are worried about temps but I think moisture return is probably one of the key things to watch. Obviously, a lot a of factors play into how quickly and to what extent we see moisture return but it is a good proxy to watch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#1780 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:34 pm

Jarodm12 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Predicting what the GFS will do is always a fools errand but here goes, it caves to the Euro at 00z. Then we will see FWD introduce winter mix into the grids with the overnight packages, if the Euro holds.


What's the likelihood the euro would totally change course this close to the event?


Almost never does the euro cave once it gets consistent so i tend to doubt it will but anything's possible lol

At least this storm temps wont be an issue like the other threats so far
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