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Currently 34 F, with a Dew Point of 31 F as of 7:08 PM

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[krysof]

wow this thread is popular, 100 pages! Excellent job!

[R-Dub]

Had another hailstorm go by about 45 min ago!! This one covered the roads because the temp is cooler. The roads are slick up here right now, there is a frost/hail combo on the asphalt.

I went into the town of Stanwood today around 2:30PM, and on the way there was a .25 mile stretch that had almost an inch of snow on the side of the road, and the ROAD!! Only for that short stretch though! There were cars passing me just covered in the white stuff.
Reminds me of the winters of old when we would get exciting stuff like that.

TT........Thats funny, I also have family visiting from Minnesota. One of them is a uncle of mine, he just couldn't stand being in the house (he said its way too nice outside) so he went out and sat on the deck (they are staying at my sisters place in the auctual town of Stanwood) We were at a temp of 38 degrees, and he thought is was SO WARM!!! I'm going to take the day off tomarrow, and drive them up to Deseption Pass (sp?)

2/13/05 LK Goodwin WA
7:06:23 PM CURRENT
Mostly Cloudy
Temperature (ºF) 33.9
Humidity (%) 94.1
Wind (mph) SE 0.0
Daily Rain (") 0.24
Pressure ("Hg) 30.14
Dew Point: 33.4 ºF

[snow_wizzard]

TT...I was laughing myself silly when we had freezing fog on Friday morning and everything was coated in heavy frost....the day you said the low would be 40! It is ridiculous to compare this area to Minnesota. I assume that is where your parents are from since you mentioned you had lived there at one time....that is only the coldest state outside of Alaska. Let's face it you were wrong about it not snowing this weekend, because the C zone has already had some and more will fall tonight. You were wrong about the low temps last week, you were wrong about your prediction of highs in the upper 50s for Monday (tomorrow). Sorry to point all of this out, but your badgering makes it more than called for. And why....WHY do you always go out of your way to show the warm temperature maps? You never show the ones (like the 48 hour that have us in cold air). This is getting ridiculous! It could be 10 degrees and you would say it's like spring.

Today we had late afternoon temps in the upper 30s with brisk winds. That IS NOT SPRING!!!!! I am getting so sick of you pretending it is.

If you get snow tonight, I guess you and your parents will see it's not spring after all.

[andycottle]

Andy... it looks like you should be under the PSCZ right now. Stange that nothing is happening in Woodinville.

Yes Tim, we are in a PSCZ right now, but is only producing light shower activity. And also, there appears to be sloppy wet flake of snow mixed in at times. Temp is 35.2 as of 7:26pm. -- Andy

[R-Dub]

Andy.......Yeah the hail pellets were small, but for some reason the pic makes them look smaller then they auctually were. Probably just a little bigger then pea sized. It started falling hard enough that I pulled my truck undercover, it was hitting so hard I was becoming concered about my paint!

The thunder/lightning was pretty cool also, haven't seen that in a while.

[andycottle]

Randy...if you have one of thoes cameras that has a really good zoom and or focus on it, Then maybe you could of squatted down to the ground too get a close up shot of the Hail. You said the hail was a little bigger than pea sized? If it was, then should of been reported to the Seattle NWS. Though I think their main interest in a hail report is if the hail 3/4" or larger. I think.. -- Andy

[R-Dub]

So who can decode this word for word???

All I can understand is there was a lightning strike Northwest of Everett or Paine Field I think, and it happened at some zulu time Guess you have to know how to fly a plane to understand this

.AVIATION...SHWRS CONTD TO INCRS...AND A LTG STRIKE OCCURRED NW OF KPAE ARND 2130Z. THIS ACTIVITY WL PRST TIL 06Z. CIGS WL BE ARND 5K FT...LCLLY NR 2K FT WITH HVYR SHWRS. ALTHO IN THE PSCZ EXPECT LCL CIGS NR 1K FT AND VSBYS 2SM +SHRAGS AFT 00Z. AFT 06Z...CIGS GENLY 4K FT XCP NR 1500 FT IN THE PSCZ. THE PSCZ...CURRENTLY BTWN KPAE AND KAWO...WL SLOLY MOV SWD AFT 10Z AS THE LOW LVL FLOW BCMS NLY. AT KSEA...EXPECT CIGS 4-6K FT OCNLLY 2500 FT. WNDS 23009KT BCMG VRB05KT AFT 12Z AS THE PSCZ APCHS. ALSO...CIGS BCMG PREDOMINATELY NR 2K FT WITH SHWRS AT KSEA AFT 12Z.

[snow_wizzard]

I hope everybody understands that I look at weather in a purely statistical sense. The temperatures for the past week have been below the climatological normal for this time of year. The calender says it's still winter...the temps are below normal for this part of winter...it IS winter, pure and simple. It is pointless to compare and say that this would be spring in Minnesota or other really cold states. I could say it is winter on a 70 degree day in April, because that would be winter in Hawaii. It is ludicrous!

I can't understand why we can't just face that it's cold out right now, some areas are seeing some snow, the temps are below normal, and it's still winter. I will welcome spring when it's here, but it's not yet.

[andycottle]

Well hmmm ... I have here on a piece of paper that 21z is 1pm. So...2130z, I`m guessing that is around or close to 2pm. -- Andy

[snow_wizzard]

Hmmm...notice on this map that our 850mb temps are lower than Minnesota tonight! I guess spring has arrived in Minnesota too!

http://itg1.meteor.wisc.edu/wxp_images/ ... 50_h18.gif

[TT-SEA]

Snow_Wizzard... don't feel bad about pointing out my forecasting errors. That is totally fair. I have absolutely no problem with that.

My predicted lows were too high for Friday morning... but Friday afternoon was absolutely beautiful. Warm and sunny.

Here is what I see... please refute each one if you can.

1) Trees blooming everywhere. In parking lots... in neighborhoods... and now even in the woods along I-90. Lots of pink blossoms in the neighborhood we drive past on the way to our house. Most small bushes have bloomed and now have leaves. Despite the cooler weather... new trees continue blooming every day. Saw lots of white blossoms in the woods along I-90 this evening that were not there yesterday.

2) The grass is REALLY green. Everywhere. And getting greener despite the cooler weather. No dormancy returning. In December most of the grass was fairly dormant.

3) The sky. Much less in the way of stratiform clouds and darkness all day. Sunshine at some point almost every day . More cumulus clouds indicative of surface warming with cold air aloft. Not as frequent in December.

4) Daylight. Sun starts coming up by 7 a.m. and light enough to work outside until after 6 p.m. Sun angle much higher than December. This causes the aforementioned cumulus clouds.

5) Temperatures. Despite cold air aloft... temperatures still climb with any sunshine at all. We will see temperatures getting into the upper 40's in places tomorrow even with cold air aloft. The same pattern would have resulted in highs in the upper 30's in December. Can you honestly tell me that if it gets into the 50's this week that its winter???

Frosty mornings are a trademark of early and mid spring for most of the country. Scrapping your windows does not make it winter. On Friday... did you just sleep all day long and ignore the warmth??

This must have been your day...1) scrap your windows...2) say its winter... 3) and go back to bed. Then wake up again at dusk??

People in short-sleeved shirts all over on Friday and you say its winter because you had to scrap your windows in the morning?????

Even the hail and rain/snow mixed in the convergence zone this afternoon is a trademark of early and mid spring.

[TT-SEA]

It was 53 degrees in Minneapolis yesterday. They thought SUMMER had arrived.

The trees and landscape there stays brown until April (despite the temperature) because their winters are so harsh.

[R-Dub]

Well hmmm ... I have here on a piece of paper that 21z is 1pm. So...2130z, I`m guessing that is around or close to 2pm. -- Andy

That must have been the same thunderstorm that passed though my area then. What time is 6z?

The hail is now melted here, so I can't get another pic of it Andy. I tried to blow up the pic that I have, but it just makes it blurry I would have to pull out a pea from the freezer to compare the two, but the hail looked just a tad bigger then a pea. I was thinking about grabbing a hailstone, and throwing it in the freezer today.........but if I did that, I think it would be time to seek help with my weather addiction/obsession

[andycottle]

Hi all. Looking tonights 18z GFS....tomorrow could feature some light showers, but very scattered in nature. Tuesday through Thursday appear mostly sunny with partly cloudy skies and maybe some light sprinkles by 18z Friday for the South Sound, while the North sound is dry. Saturday and Sunday features occasional showers.

850MB temps for tomorrow and Tuesday are around -6C, then wamring to 0C by Friday, only to drop down again to -3C by Sunday. Both GFS and GEM models showing 500MB heights at around 552DM through the week and going down to 546, 540DM by the weekend. So looks like maybe a somewhat cool week ahead, though the sunshine should make the temp feel warmer. -- Andy

[R-Dub]

Auctually TT........And quite thankfully for me, (Two more weeks is all I ask for, I can finally start hiring the seasonal crew then WOOO HOOO the grass can grow all it wants then )the grass has really "calmed down" with the growth up here anyway. Still plenty green though, but the soil temps have dropped back down to nearly what they should be this time of the yr, and for a lot of our greens, they are pretty much down to a "growth trickle" from being frozen all last week, and now a layer of hail on top of them Its amazing how sand based greens can hold the cold in, I am sure the greens will be white from the hail in the morning, but all other surfaces will be bare.

BUT that is up here, down your way I am sure the soil temps are still higher because you guys down there had much warmer high temps last week. We didn't make it out of the low 40's for highs exept for Friday.

[andycottle]

Again, on my piece of paper here...06z is 10pm during PST, and 11pm for PDT. -- Andy

[R-Dub]

Again, on my piece of paper here...06z is 10pm during PST, and 11pm for PDT. -- Andy

Cool thanks Andy

Guess there is a chance of thunder until 10-11PM then.

[snow_wizzard]

I guess one thing is that we just don't have so many of those signs of spring in Covington. The nights have been so cold that nothing has happend yet. Nobody around here has mowed their lawn and they are still the same length as in Dec. The frost on Friday was not a spring type frost...it was very foogy way below freezing and everything was solid white. The 50s had periods with relatively warm days and cold nights in the late winter also. It does not mean that winter is over. Remember we can get big cold spell in March when the sun is much more powerful than now. I am actually happey to see all of these late winter cold nights...we have not seen that for along time now. As I have mentioned, the number of lows of 25 or below this season is at 8....one more would give us the most of any season since 96 - 97 (my personal records). Perhaps it means we are shifting gears again. We can only hope so!