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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2101 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:46 am

bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Looks like we're getting a bit of a south/slower trend with the disturbance. Which means a little more digging. Also depth and location of cold probably will be a determinate factor.


Yes, baby steps on both the 12z GFS and CMC.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2024011012/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024011012/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png


A little weird to me that the CMC is showing freezing rain with the 540 line. Shouldn't that at least be sleet?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2102 Postby WacoWx » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:52 am

dhweather wrote:06Z ECMWF has practically ALL of Montana -20 to -50 on Saturday morning. I honestly cannot fathom temperatures that cold, and hope I never have to experience such. :cold:


I am skiing that morning in Big Sky, MT...assuming that they open the mountain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2103 Postby HockeyTx82 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:52 am

rwfromkansas wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Looks like we're getting a bit of a south/slower trend with the disturbance. Which means a little more digging. Also depth and location of cold probably will be a determinate factor.


Yes, baby steps on both the 12z GFS and CMC.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2024011012/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024011012/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png


A little weird to me that the CMC is showing freezing rain with the 540 line. Shouldn't that at least be sleet?


Artic air is shallow so maybe that's why.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2104 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:52 am

rwfromkansas wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Looks like we're getting a bit of a south/slower trend with the disturbance. Which means a little more digging. Also depth and location of cold probably will be a determinate factor.


Yes, baby steps on both the 12z GFS and CMC.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2024011012/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024011012/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png


A little weird to me that the CMC is showing freezing rain with the 540 line. Shouldn't that at least be sleet?

It appears to be showing sleet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2105 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:53 am

wxman57 wrote:ICON is not as cold for Houston, too. I like the trend, but won't trust any model until maybe 12Z Sunday.

That run was bizarre to me, warmer than just about any run before it. It also seems really inconsistent with the strength, characteristics, and timing of the disturbance from run to run when looking at 500mb vorticity
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2106 Postby Anti-freeze » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:53 am

A low water advisory for the Texas coast.

https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=HGX&wwa=low%20water%20advisory

Keep a watch out for the tsunami...

...Poseidon New Year's cruise returning to Galveston today.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2107 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:55 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:


A little weird to me that the CMC is showing freezing rain with the 540 line. Shouldn't that at least be sleet?

It appears to be showing sleet.


Oh oops. I am slightly colorblind, which makes reading these models fun sometimes. Lol.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2108 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:01 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
wxman57 wrote:ICON is not as cold for Houston, too. I like the trend, but won't trust any model until maybe 12Z Sunday.

That run was bizarre to me, warmer than just about any run before it. It also seems really inconsistent with the strength, characteristics, and timing of the disturbance from run to run when looking at 500mb vorticity


National Blend of Models (NBM) is similar. Only 25 Tuesday then 32 Wednesday in Houston. Like the trend, but don't trust anything this far out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2109 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:16 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Looks like we're getting a bit of a south/slower trend with the disturbance. Which means a little more digging. Also depth and location of cold probably will be a determinate factor.


Yes, baby steps on both the 12z GFS and CMC.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2024011012/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2024011012/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_18.png


A little weird to me that the CMC is showing freezing rain with the 540 line. Shouldn't that at least be sleet?


Thick above freezing nose aloft at the 850 & 700mb levels but really cold at surface, anything falling would instantly freeze on contact.

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2110 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:19 pm

Looks like the 12z GEFS also trended in the positive direction. Still a lot of time to go :grr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2111 Postby bohai » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:30 pm

Does anyone know why the future forecasts on The Weather Channel and Accuweather are usually significantly different? Especially for the San Antonio, Boerne, and Kerrville area? I would assume they both would use NWS info but apparently not.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2112 Postby txtwister78 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:38 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2113 Postby aggiecutter » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:45 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2114 Postby Itryatgolf » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:48 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Looks like the 12z GEFS also trended in the positive direction. Still a lot of time to go :grr:

Why the mad face if it's in the positive direction?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2115 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:49 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Looks like the 12z GEFS also trended in the positive direction. Still a lot of time to go :grr:

Why the mad face if it's in the positive direction?


That's for the "still a lot of time" b/c we know there will probably be some crazy model flips b/w now and then lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2116 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:52 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Looks like the 12z GEFS also trended in the positive direction. Still a lot of time to go :grr:


Yeah, only down to 31 in Houston Tuesday and 35 Wed. The trend isn't necessarily your friend this far out, though. The trend will be much more important Sat/Sun.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2117 Postby Itryatgolf » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:53 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Looks like the 12z GEFS also trended in the positive direction. Still a lot of time to go :grr:

Why the mad face if it's in the positive direction?


That's for the "still a lot of time" b/c we know there will probably be some crazy model flips b/w now and then lol

Concisely I agree. Imo, we want the tpv to move away and not do the shredder cheddar lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2118 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:54 pm

Hmmmm...

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2119 Postby Harp.1 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:56 pm

Clear up something for me, please. My understanding that the vort that could give winter precip next week is still in the Pacific? If that’s the case, then we really won’t know anything more specific until this weekend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2120 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:56 pm

Also, the 12z Canadian tries to make a run at sub zero at DFW :cold:
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