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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2141 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:24 pm

That run and upper air pattern were gorgeous.

I'll worry about precip chances on Sunday/Monday. I told yall I was bringing cold air back with me. Mount up!
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2142 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:35 pm

Canadian drops the hammer :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2143 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:37 pm

The whole run from Monday the 2nd through Hour 384 is a very favorable Pacific. I know its Hour 384 panel, but its showing a 585 dm ridge stacked right where we want it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2144 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:43 pm

Ntxw wrote:Canadian drops the hammer :lol:


Canadian keeps my house in Montgomery County below freezing from Hour 192 through 240 (and I'm guessing through the next few frames based on what I see)
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2145 Postby davidiowx » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:53 pm

Hope this comes to fruition because it's down right depressing how it feels outside right now
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2146 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:18 pm

Speaking of depressing here is a look back at Christmas day temps.

 https://twitter.com/SeverePlains/status/813786507555311616





Here's hoping the latest models are somewhat right on the cold coming next week!! :cold: :froze:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2147 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:21 pm

On a side note, Princess Leia, Carrie Fisher, passed away this morning. 2016 can go out with a fiery, hellish enema.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2148 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:41 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Canadian drops the hammer :lol:


Canadian keeps my house in Montgomery County below freezing from Hour 192 through 240 (and I'm guessing through the next few frames based on what I see)

A blend of the models appears to give us a real cold shot of air, but it appears to me the precip will be gone by the time it gets cold enough for winter type precips. Any way you look at it we could see some very cold(for SE TX) weather mid to late next week. :cold: :froze: And no I am not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen!! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2149 Postby Snowman67 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:42 pm

[quote="davidiowx"]Hope this comes to fruition because it's down right depressing how it feels outside right now[/quote]

Yup. I'm smoking some ribs today, and it feels like summer! :grr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2150 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:44 pm

We'll know if the cold will come in about 48 hours. While surface fun maps are 7+ days, the catalyst for arctic air movement will be the reversal of the GOA trough into a GOA ridge by Thursday or Friday. It will essentially cut off the mixing of warmer maritime air
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2151 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:00 pm

The 12z Euro sure looks interesting at the end of the run (day 10=January 6). Cold air is oozing southward across Texas with a developing winter storm. The run ends with freezing rain from San Angelo to Dallas with snow in the Panhandle.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2152 Postby JayDT » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:25 pm

Well I see the trends are starting to go a bit better for us cold weather lovers. :D
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#2153 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:37 pm

Still really far out....isn't a trend till about 4 days out, models have a hard time with this
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2154 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:40 pm

I don't yet see a relaxation of the EPO or WPO from the ensembles. So when the cold comes, it will likely stick around a little longer than mid Dec. Climo also favors along with the warming ENSO
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2155 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:41 pm

I hope so. Feels like a pattern waste otherwise

Warmer than forecast again today. Really getting old. I'm sure tomorrow will push 80 just because.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2156 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:52 pm

Yeah its been terrible with the worse timing. We live and die by the Pacific, and I can't believe I ignored the +EPO episode this past week. I thought it would at least be stormy but its been so moisture deprived and storms cutting up west..Pacific reversal by the weekend will be welcomed
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2157 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:16 pm

FWD AFD:

Regardless of Sunday`s rain potential, all eyes will be watching
another arctic airmass organizing across western Canada and the
northern U.S. by Monday. There is actually very good model
agreement in the upper level pattern for the early and middle part
of next week, so confidence is high that this cold air is going to
pool across the northern Rockies and northern Great Plains. Unlike
the last arctic intrusion into Texas, which was propelled rapidly
southward by a strong and dynamic upper level trough, this arctic
airmass will be more bottled up as a positive tilt upper level
trough sits over the northern and northwestern U.S. This means
a west to east zonal jet stream will set up across the central
part of the country and fight the arctic airmass`s ability to
move southward. Even still, arctic air is very dense, and it`s
likely that a shallow layer of this air will make steady progress
southward into the region by Tuesday. The shallow nature of this
arctic intrusion will promote cloudy skies and possibly some light
post-frontal precipitation. Snow may be a hard sell since it is
likely to remain above freezing between 700 and 850 mb, but
there`s at least some low potential for icing or sleet by the
middle of next week. It`s too early to get any more specific than
to say a low wintry potential exists at this point. Either way
temperatures will be colder with lows in the 20s and 30s and
highs likely only in the 30s from mid to late next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2158 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:37 pm

On a side note, I have been feeling the Juniper Ashei all day today. Looks moderate to high...the hell from the hill country season has begun for me. Cedar fever is here...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2159 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:49 pm

GFS has 1-2 inches of snow in DFW next Wednesday
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#2160 Postby Meteorcane » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:50 pm

Obviously still 6-7 days out so a lot can change, but the globals have latched on to the early week southern cold air surge. How cold it will get and how much/if any precip (also ptype is not obviously as even post-frontal precip could be sleet/freezing rain depending on the depth of the cold air layer) you all will get is hard to tell at this point, but confidence is definitely growing for the chance of below average temperatures sometime next week. It may be slow coming in, however, because the western trough looks to be very positively tilted initially.
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