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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2361 Postby jaguars_22 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:16 pm

Stratton- I know it lol but he sounds so serious about none, zilch, nada and then a model comes out and boom blizzard
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2362 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:17 pm

Nederlander wrote:
jaguars_22 wrote:Nam is most likely not going to happen!! That’s too far south… and wxman said no ice for se Texas so we’re good

That’s a totally different feature that over runs the cold air already in place. Not sure what it’s picking up though.


STJ and a cold front can squeeze pretty easily.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2363 Postby dhweather » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:17 pm

Here's a work in process meteogram = I've modified the original wxman57 GFS spreadsheet to use the hourly GFS output through 384 hours.


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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2364 Postby Snowman67 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:17 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Tammie wrote:I’m growing very concerned about Wxman57. He’s gone dark. He’s gone silent. With Starlink, Wi-Fi and cell service is pretty much guaranteed even in the most remote places. Is it time to ask for proof of life???


We've had nearly 30 conference calls today, and now we have an active TC in South Indian Ocean. Plus, I just rode my bike back from the Red River, adding a few more bricks to the wall.

Just finished plotting all models from 12Z runs for central Houston. Trend is clouds hanging in longer down here Tuesday, which may not allow the temperature to rise much above freezing. Note that only 6am, 12pm, and 6pm temps are plotted below. High will be around 3pm Tuesday. It all depends on when the clouds break out Tuesday PM. No winter precip for us down here, except for chance of a few sleet pellets Monday night before freezing temps arrive.

NWS National Blend of Models still keeps frozen precip NE of the D-FW area, I see. Note that I am adding in the NAM for my next plot. It only goes out to 6pm Sunday, the start of the plot below. It has 36F for that time, which is way colder than the other models. Those models are likely too slow with the front. Heck, the wacky Canadian has 69F for 6pm Sunday. It's likely WAY too cold for Tue/Wed. Possibly 20F too cold.

http://wxman57.com/images/Models12ZJan11HOU.JPG


As far as precip goes, are you giving the "all clear" for areas north of the Houston metro area (i.e. Tomball)?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2365 Postby jaguars_22 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:18 pm

Another idea is that we don’t know what can come out of Mexico either.. surprises surprises
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2366 Postby Fifty Rock » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:20 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Nederlander wrote:
jaguars_22 wrote:Nam is most likely not going to happen!! That’s too far south… and wxman said no ice for se Texas so we’re good

That’s a totally different feature that over runs the cold air already in place. Not sure what it’s picking up though.


Subtropical jet. El Nino, remember? There's usually a plume of moisture sitting off the west coast of MX. Any disturbance has the opportunity to tap it.

https://i.imgur.com/hoeZyj4.gif


Great image, let's hope Mother Nature is in the mood to tap it and doesn't need a few aspirin instead.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2367 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:21 pm

18z icon finally joins the group bringing frozen precip south of the red river. It isn’t much, but it’s something.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2368 Postby CaptinCrunch » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:31 pm

I think we will continue to see the trend of more precip south of the Red River as the models zero in with better data and timing
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2369 Postby JDawg512 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:33 pm

Taylor Swift is awesome, I like her a lot.

I really hope we don't see any frozen precipitation in Austin. I still have PTSD from last winter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2370 Postby DallasAg » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:34 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:I think we will continue to see the trend of more precip south of the Red River as the models zero in with better data and timing

FWD bumping up POPs for Dallas County from 20% to 50% with the afternoon package. Pretty big increase. Though they're showing the Ptype as freezing rain and not sleet.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2371 Postby Fifty Rock » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:35 pm

JDawg512 wrote:Taylor Swift is awesome, I like her a lot.

I really hope we don't see any frozen precipitation in Austin. I still have PTSD from last winter.


I have PTSD from BOTH.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2372 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:42 pm

DallasAg wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:I think we will continue to see the trend of more precip south of the Red River as the models zero in with better data and timing

FWD bumping up POPs for Dallas County from 20% to 50% with the afternoon package. Pretty big increase. Though they're showing the Ptype as freezing rain and not sleet.

NWS SHV also buying in with 50% chance of Mix and also dropped low to 9 Tue morning for me in Lindale.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2373 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:49 pm

getting into NAM range when precip starting to break out Sunday....18Z NAM forecast sounding cold enough for snow DFW, sleet from Austin to College Station, frz rain San Antonio to Houston

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2374 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:50 pm

dhweather wrote:Just a throwback to 2021. :froze:

[url]https://i.ibb.co/VTB7vfc/2021021012-ZGFS.png [/url]

The first time I witnessed an actual temp of -10 here!
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2375 Postby jaguars_22 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:51 pm

Looks like the latest GFS is even slower with the SW...
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2376 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:57 pm

FWD bumped my precip to 40 percent and a low of 9 Monday night. Brrr.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2377 Postby kirium » Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:59 pm

I'm not sure what the models are saying for Oklahoma City (specifically the northern suburbs of OKC/Edmond) but I noticed the NOAA.gov forecast has just jumped our snow forecast for sunday/monday from about 1" total to about 4" total. Curious to watch if that increases or not. They've all said very cold for quite some time, but it appears here (Edmond/N OKC) the first front comes through tonight and we may see 1/2" of snow in the morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2378 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:13 pm

Pretty safe bet now that where global models have frozen precip depicted will likely end up being further south closer to the 18z NAM as mentioned earlier. Good news is Hi-Res models will start to come into play tomorrow evening and especially on Saturday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2379 Postby Brent » Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:13 pm

kirium wrote:I'm not sure what the models are saying for Oklahoma City (specifically the northern suburbs of OKC/Edmond) but I noticed the NOAA.gov forecast has just jumped our snow forecast for sunday/monday from about 1" total to about 4" total. Curious to watch if that increases or not. They've all said very cold for quite some time, but it appears here (Edmond/N OKC) the first front comes through tonight and we may see 1/2" of snow in the morning.


Tulsa was very uncertain in the AFD they said before the 12z runs they thought beyond 4 inches was possible but now they are saying based off the 12z runs it could be closer to 2 I guess we'll see. The one thing is with the blowing and drifting I'm not so sure it'll be easy to measure anyway

The 18z GFS looks to be on the high end again
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#2380 Postby mmmmsnouts » Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:35 pm

gpsnowman wrote:For the football watchers the Chiefs Dolphins game is going to be incredibly cold on Sunday. One of the coldest in NFL history. Ouch. I'll have an all day fire while watching the playoffs.


Dolphins-Chiefs is Saturday night. Might be below zero by the end of that game. Miami is going to be very sorry they didn’t win last week.

Then Sunday afternoon we get Steelers-Bills in a near blizzard in Buffalo!
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