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#2701 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:59 pm

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#2702 Postby Tammie » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:00 pm

Merry Christmas Storm2K family! Can someone who follows JB on Twitter analyze and explain the Tweets he's made regarding the maps he's posted today? (After your turkey dinner and nap, of course!) TIA!!
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#2703 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:02 pm

Merry Christmas to all our friends at S2k. May the New Year bring you a +PNA/-AO/-EPO regime with a noisy sub tropical jet and a Southern tracking cold core upper low.
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#2704 Postby Portastorm » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:20 pm

aggiecutter wrote:Merry Christmas to all and a special gift to Portastorm:
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You shouldn't have! :lol:
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#2705 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:00 pm

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#2706 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:39 pm

Gfs is starting to show snow falling in North Texas after New Years.
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#2707 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:47 pm

TheProfessor wrote:Gfs is starting to show snow falling in North Texas after New Years.


By "north Texas", do you mean that trace of snow in the northern panhandle around Jan. 7th? That's all I see on the 12Z GFS.
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#2708 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:54 pm

wxman57 wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:Gfs is starting to show snow falling in North Texas after New Years.


By "north Texas", do you mean that trace of snow in the northern panhandle around Jan. 7th? That's all I see on the 12Z GFS.


No I used wunderground's gfs run and it had snow passing over the metroplex and had the -10 degree celcius line close to dfw airport.
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#2709 Postby perk » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:02 pm

srainhoutx wrote:Merry Christmas to all our friends at S2k. May the New Year bring you a +PNA/-AO/-EPO regime with a noisy sub tropical jet and a Southern tracking cold core upper low.


Now that's my kind of new year. :)
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#2710 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:34 pm

In response to the 2004 storm for South Texas, Frank B made a joke ten days out that the models actually are showing snow for Christmas Eve, but he then said its so far out it seems unlikely.

As far as the day of, the most optimistic i heard was that you MAY see some wintry mix around town. Many others said 'sorry guys i know its cold but no snow this year,' because it was bone chilling cold all week. Snow flurries were randomly reported around town, i went out to the mall to do some last minute shopping, came outside and the snow had just begin to fall. Boy was it coming down hard soon after too.

Since my family is all over the US and the world, it was my first Christmas to stay in town, i was 20 years old at the time. That day was a blessing and a prayer answered since i was a child. So beautiful and so much fun.

Snow stuck around till about 10 am the next day and was visible all day in shaded parts of the roof lol
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i started taking pics in the middle of the night after returning from a snowball fight since it started melting lol
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#2711 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:16 pm

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TheProfessor wrote:Gfs is starting to show snow falling in North Texas after New Years.


By "north Texas", do you mean that trace of snow in the northern panhandle around Jan. 7th? That's all I see on the 12Z GFS.


No I used wunderground's gfs run and it had snow passing over the metroplex and had the -10 degree celcius line close to dfw airport.


I don't see that on the 12Z GFS run.
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#2712 Postby Ntxw » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:31 pm

:uarrow: Perhaps he is talking about the gfs showing flurries or light snow with frontal passage around the 30th. Won't see it on the meteograms too light but on outlets such as instantweathermaps does have categorical snow falling. Doesn't amount to anything at this time on the model.
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#2713 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:53 pm

Ntxw wrote::uarrow: Perhaps he is talking about the gfs showing flurries or light snow with frontal passage around the 30th. Won't see it on the meteograms too light but on outlets such as instantweathermaps does have categorical snow falling. Doesn't amount to anything at this time on the model.


Yes that is exactly what I saw.
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#2714 Postby wxman57 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:25 pm

TheProfessor wrote:
Ntxw wrote::uarrow: Perhaps he is talking about the gfs showing flurries or light snow with frontal passage around the 30th. Won't see it on the meteograms too light but on outlets such as instantweathermaps does have categorical snow falling. Doesn't amount to anything at this time on the model.


Yes that is exactly what I saw.


You said the -10C line was south of Dallas but it's up in central Missouri on the 30th. The surface freezing line is just south of Dallas, though. There is about zero moisture, but the air aloft is certainly cold enough for snow:

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#2715 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:53 pm

I meant to say it had the -10c line coming down after new years. But hopefully we can get a moisture boost on the 30th! :wink:
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#2716 Postby opticsguy » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Edvaurd Munchs' "The Scream" at the 200 mb level. Cross polar flow developing after new years?

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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2717 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:07 pm

Hope you all have had a blessed day today celebrating Christmas with family, loved ones, and friends. Merry Christmas everyone!!! May all of your future Christmas Day celebrations be white with heavy snow!!! Even you Wxman57!
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#2718 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:49 am

srainhoutx wrote:Merry Christmas to all our friends at S2k. May the New Year bring you a +PNA/-AO/-EPO regime with a noisy sub tropical jet and a Southern tracking cold core upper low.

You know what I like!!! If I get it you get it too!!
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#2719 Postby RedRiverRefuge » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:46 pm

Bering Sea Rule.

Says that a storm system in the Bering Sea then results in a storm system for the United States approximately 2.5 to 3 weeks later, or 17-21 days later. If we see a storm system entering the Bering Sea on December 30th, we extrapolate that date to the Bering Sea Rule guideline of 17-21 days and end up with a storm timeframe of roughly January 16-20.

Never heard of such a rule. Surely its not that simple and there are many interdependencies. Thoughts ?
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#2720 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:21 pm

Most ensemble members are trending towards a - AO/NAO along with a + PNA pattern to start off the New Year....really good news for those winter weather lovers from the Southern Plains to the East Coast. As far as storms go, something appears to be brewing around January 6-7th time frame as the MJO is swinging around into Phases 8-1.

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